Favourite '80s Tunes

Anyone else got any favourites from that time?

I came to them a couple of years after Stan, but it's still the first thing I put on the stereo after twenty years. There Is A Light is wonderful - my favourite though is Stop Me - and i love the video with all the lookalike fans on the racers around Salford - even though I'm not sure it was the original vid for that track. I also think this is the nuts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6QnK0yql8s

Great tune, Fatboy. How could I forget that? :) Rockin' here right now this minute...

Well, here you go then. Mark Ronson? Get outa here!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naos7it_bl0&ob=av3n

Moz is the man, bless 'im...

Heaven 17 Temptation - 1983(?)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xWwtMrDX2o8&ob=av2e

Just about said it all.

I agree. Fine tune, Blessing. New Order did a good song with the same title. They also did this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzeNAUOp17c

A little light pop:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWJPa0bvWnM

Good film.

Same song, live:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcbgRUQaza8

Thanks, Footsie. Funny, but I nearly posted Pale Shelter. Great track, and film.... and I needed a Drew Barrymore fix to set me up for the day, too.

How about a little something from the '90s (the new eighties) by Karl Jenkins, a good Welshman with solid Soft Machine roots?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNSD70t_XQQ

This is the one you all know: (C&G Building Soc. used it)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTyjV-MPBa0

Or perhaps this? (Delta airlines used it)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aL8kZ-iVk90

Or this? (developed from his music for the deBeers ad.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-X_J36zxeg

Stan you have excellent taste in music :)

The Smiths are probably my favourite band along with The Jam and The Cure. And this song would be high up there for my fave 80s tune
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpc7TBhilFI

These guys for me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uhpu2N4rQZM

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Wow... what a clutch of tunes! Thanks, Footsie... I like Karl Jenkins, too.

SundaysChild - thanks... and so have you. Always good to hear the Simps again.

Andrea - fabulous song - and Annie Lennox is so damned hot!

Ok... here's the moment when a band from the republic of Ireland transformed themselves into a global phenomenon that's still going...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zIW8qDPhos

...and here they are a couple of years later, having their 'Beatles on the roof of the Apple Building' moment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzZWSrr5wFI&ob=av3e

Ok, 80's music, they are taking about 80's music. Don't spend 23 hours like you want to, putting hundreds of bands links down here. Don't get all emotional. Calm.

Can I just invite you all to try:

Teardrop Explodes - Reward

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Me8koyuX4YE

Echo and the Bunnymen - A Promise

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_bvO3mL0Lc

Joy Division - Decades

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMAB3r6EjcM

The Cure - Close to Me

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gw8Hwz3Xumc&ob=av2e

This is not to say that the Smiths are not - words fail me - sublime - just listen and enjoy

Laurie x

Fantastic choice, Laurie. Stuff work for the day. Think I'll just party now...

Better just add this, though...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuezNswtRfo

I see yours Stan but I raise you:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKRJfIPiJGY

Oh dear, I knew this would happen. Of course I see my own Bauhaus, but I now have to raise it with

The Associates - Party Fears Two

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPsdRUHiCAE

The floodgates are open

You won't believe this... but it was actually a toss-up between Lucretia and yours! Spooky.

Floodgates?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvjYIrsqE2Y

At the risk of being shown the door I'll put up this because:

1) John Peel liked them, and John Peel was cooler than Noel Fielding.

2) I went to see them when I'd just got my new Lotus, and thoroughly enjoyed the journey there and back (can't remember anything about the gig).

3) Their music is easy to bash out on the piano when you're drunk.

4) Bill Sharpe's gurning is just plain freaky.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5NJ0ys1JEM

Yeah... remember that, Footsie.

I went to see this guy on my bicycle. Not an '80s tune, but that's when he came into his own. Besides... I think he looks better now he's older.

Could have been from the '80s anyway... such a tune...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJZl_UjkLb8

You will never be shown the door FTSE, Shakatak were wonderful and yes Stan, Gary Numan but I see your Shakatak and your Gary Numan and I give you:-

Squeeze - Tempted

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PmtS_qMdXg

Yeah, another good one.

But this has truly got to be the nuts...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iz6iENNnf08

I raise you both with:

Freeez - Southern Freeze!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yh0hGoESFcE

If I have to bring out the big guns then so be it:-

Talking Heads, Psycho Killer on Old Grey Whistle Test

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5zFsy9VIdM

I trump your ace with:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LI7GWbVV7ps

Well... I'm holding a royal flush, I'm afraid...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zH18_dZIYOE

Good FTSE, very good. Love Sade. But Anita Baker all day long

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCkH8ZOUrOQ

Oh, Edenfalls... what a song! Well done!

There are too many to choose from so this is just picked at random:

Mexican Radio – Wall Of Voodoo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V04IBsz-9Wo

Mummy Calls – Beauty Has Her Way (From the Soundtrack to “The Lost Boys”)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I92u-SJRNM4

Hole in My Heart (All The Way To China) – Cyndi Lauper
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le6NZAbkj00

Since Yesterday – Strawberry Switchblade
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7QPBzAJ_io

Winning – The Sound
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhkOmUlgFwg

You’ve got to be a hustler if you want to get on - Sue Wilkinson
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mdqFgOAM8Y0

Nowhere Girl – B-Movie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQfC7Ow5GHo&feature=related

All About Eve – More than the blues
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Vmw0fUPrDQ

The Lost Girl In The Midnight Sun – The Lilac Time
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p25_YZ22POc

Facts About Cats – Timbuk 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFT-TQfCrGU

Hey Little Girl - Icehouse
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OKDYyFf1s0I

Words - Missing Persons
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlN3c_-oc3s

Blimey... a positive avalanche!

I fancy Blancmange for tea...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmWA0DWzH_U

And to think, I once had hair like this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2klJgOidqc&feature=related

Think I prefer the mullet now, actually...

Hmm yesss...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h1DDndY0FLI

A song so good, Richie Sambora's guitar required two sticky-out bits.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFro05ieV5c

I've seen a million faces and I've rocked them all!

Good one, Fatboy. The vid makes the rock 'n' roll life look so dull and full of drudgery, though. All that travel, hotels and motels, limos, planes, adulation. Give me a desk job any day.

Yes it does - JBJ does pouty and exhausted really well.

Top forum topic this stan and I think it has plenty of legs left.

I just scraped through the 80's but these 2 I always return to:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9j_j-cUwKc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ech6pZoBJ4

Fatboy - I think it just demonstrates the sheer diversity of what was out there at the time. I'm beginning to sound a bit like my dad... but music now all seems to sound so bland and samey! Hip-hop, X-Factor divas, happy hardcore, etc. There are a few gems in the coal-heap - but not as many as in previous decades, I don't think. Maybe, as I say though, I'm just gettin' old...

Thanks, Pia. Great blasts from the past. That was another amazing decade, eh?

Just remembered this one. Sophie Ellis-Bextor did a reasonable cover, but this is still the best for me...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i2UHvgiq79E

All lost in the supermarket, Peaches, Something better change (70's?), That's entertainment, Pretty in pink, What's this For? (killing joke album), Groovers in the heart, Infected, Undertones, the day the world turned day-glo, house music.

Great Movies/ Great Theme Songs/Great Band –

Flash Gordon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9kCCLwEga8

Who Wants To Live Forever (used in Highlander)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Jtpf8N5IDE&ob=av3n

Princes Of The Universe (used in Highlander)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEJ8lpCQbyw&feature=related

Songs I like just because of the Fantasy connection/nostalgia -

Fink Brothers (Madness) – Mutants in Mega City One
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Rr6nJk9Zb4

Kate Kestrel (Character from ‘Terrahawks’) - SOS
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kLk3wrAxyc

DEBBIE HARRY from the animated 1983 movie "Rock 'n' Rule"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bkuzt9mPQsU

Theme Song To 'They Came From Somewhere Else'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBhbBBHRpfo

Theme Song from 'A Very Peculiar Practice'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTticYbgWyU

Ok... you've got some great tunes there, well-wisher. A true treat.

But come on... top this...

Girlfriend in a Coma...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5b_V68mQ9k

Listening to Morrissey, I'd be more likely to top myself:

Vicar In A Tutu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuScm5aqL6c

Ahh... but he's so funny!

'Prudence never pays... and everything she wants costs money...' A line to die for.

Here's music that just makes you WANT to die:

Russ Abbot - Happy Atmosphere

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFPLk5mJ1D4

*dies*

If you really want misery, you need Cohen. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNUYF73aI3I

(and that one's relatively cheerful)

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If you find his voice depressing, there’s always Jennifer Warnes like her great 1987 version of his ‘First We Take Manhattan’

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnsB6VBznBA&feature=related

But generally I find Cohen’s songs to be quite uplifting. His voice may drone but in most cases it’s a drone of defiance or happiness or hope.

Sisters Of Mercy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBFQg7P5YKw

Also, his ‘I’m Your Man’ Album, is my favourite and its really up tempo and poppy; Leonard Cohen does Disco:

There aint no cure for love
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqPqMjEZlQo

Oh, don't get me wrong, I absolutely love Cohen, him and Dylan can do no wrong as far as I'm concerned. It's just that well, if you're feeling a bit suicidal, you might want to give him a miss (temporarily)

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I prefer his 'older' voice.

Avalanche...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-oLmOm9vk0

has anyone covered this guy?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEBbIq2atrw

This guy didn't do too badly, Pia...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzEjY3n_7JQ

hmm sure Stan
;)

Hey ... loved all the L Cohen songs up here. Find it really inspiring. Thanks for posting.

pia, what about the Australian bands/singers?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McsWKczU6wc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H905Z3Nj334

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wv-34w8kGPM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhvbRZWEtd4&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJpyG3PXoKw

They were playing that 'Land of Down Under' in the garden centre the other day. 'Course I was singing along, cork hat a' bobbin', didgeridoo slung over me shoulder...

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Ah well... if we're on 'Men at Work', this is my all-time favourite...

Overkill
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lcu7OCIqlqE

...and here's a couple of outstanding tracks with outstanding sax solos...

Will You - Hazel O'Connor

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InQxghlWMWM

Baker Street - Gerry Rafferty

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WkS169P_Eeo

Eiih How could I not mention them- Thanks Well-wisher
and Stan I love Baker Street...

and this one...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1VGTqovfP4

Oh yes, T'Pau. I used to be such a big fan of them when I was in my teens. Carol Decker had a great voice.

These are my favourite ones though from 'Bridge of Spies':

Valentine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-c9UwwhIkTM

I Will Be With You
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7u1-NIcfXzo&feature=related

and these from their second album 'Rage':

Secret Garden
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJiF0jyZuCU

Road to Our Dream
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tf42zAiFBtw

I rather liked Stevie Nicks but not today-her voice has gone off a bit- but here it is Christine ?
Fleetwood Mac was bigger in the 70's I think- but I listened to them a lot in the 80's as well

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KrfOspHdVM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIRstLa1p_w

And keeping things cool ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvxMpm4DwI0

I remember the 'Tango In The Night' Album, pia. My sister used to have that and the single 'Little Lies'.

One of the best Albums of the 80’s, I think, was the Bangles ‘Different Light’ . Almost every track on the Album was a big hit and I remember when ‘Walk Like An Egyptian Came Out’, everyone was doing it. Anyone who doesn’t have the album ‘Different Light’, I would recommend it, just hummable, perfectly crafted pop rock tunes from beginning to end.

Walk Like An Egyptian
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5N7RNQUKts

Different Light
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kf_ZnG8PKx4

Angels Don’t Fall In Love
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kcFHKl6ad0

Manic Monday
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAZgLcK5LzI&feature=related

I remember The Bangles- walk like an egyptian and Manic Monday- great
Iggy Pop were okay I suppose- have run out of more at the moment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEY6_jcrzI8

I heard a lot of radio and didn't buy many albums

love this one- the video is great
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djV11Xbc914

The Pretenders, Pink Floyd, Pet Shop Boys, Queen, ELO,Van Halen, Michael Jackson, The Boss, Blondie,
wow there are just so many..Mahavishnu,Mark Knopfler,Simple Minds,Supertramp, Yes I do believe that the 80's was definetly THE DECADE where music was listened to.

Oh yes, I love that video too. Most pop videos are quite cheesy but I've always thought that one was really romantic.

Speaking of the Pretenders, I've always liked this
video that spoofs the Avengers tv series and the song's great too-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_Bj8wrXslk

I just love anything Chrissie Hynde and The Pretenders do- love her videos. I watched the Avengers too.. Patrick Macnee?
I was very much into Mahavishnu in the late 70's

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7c9g7Gzg9Ew

early 80's he didn't make good videos but check out the music- veeery spiritual

Well... just over the border in 1990... but a great cover of the Marvin Gaye classics by the talented Mr Palmer...

Mercy, Mercy Me/I Want You
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMT-oiiY7DE

and this came just a few years later - one of my Robert Palmer favourites. Just a great, great song:

Know By Now
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yhqy_yscur4

Here is a live performance that, perhaps, isn't quite as perfect as the one for Top Of The Pops but it starts well and ends better!
Okay it's 90's not 80's but when its as good as this is then who cares?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NL-9JlSCNOQ

Thanks for that, Mangone. What a fabulous voice she had. Such a loss. Here's another of hers that I always hits deep:

Autumn Leaves
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--xW8HPJRY0

Another slight digression: Over the Rainbow by the guitar virtuoso, Tommy Emmanuel. Another sublime version...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ubVGiyAhkY

Thanks Stan that's another of my favourites as is her version of Sting's Fields Of Gold.

I'm off to check out your Tommy Emmanuel link now...
keep up the great work :O)

I digress- sorry can't help myself- this is too beautiful not to share- enjoy folks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6IeaJHoPPE

Great song that, Pia :)

They haven't come up yet... but here's a B side that might've been an A side, from the Human League.

Seconds...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwpvHJN3QvI

A couple of poppier ones that bring back some special memories...

China Crisis - Wishful Thinking
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oj20LKdg8-8&feature=fvst

Howard Jones - What is Love?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smmtzejfpZ8

...and I couldn't leave this one off...

Dexy's - Come On, Eileen...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oc-P8oDuS0Q

lovely Stan- still hear them on the radio over here...;D

The 80s - Thatcher, riots, post punk anger and Trumpton, only one track properly captured it all http://www.abctales.com/forum/2012/01/14/favourite-80s-tunes

Come on, Terrence... waiting....

Sorry, what happened there? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCYOQOn-NPU

Though if you want the perfect 80s video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCvs2w_Mjeg&feature=related

Hahaha... worth the wait, mate! Poll tax riots, Reclaim the Streets, Critical Mass... I were there!

How's about this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7o-9_J_Cc2w

And can't forget Siouxsie...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ww-pKVClzU&feature=related

Gosh had forgotten the orignal song, the tv show killed a once fond memory
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xxju1pNhuA

I can't forget Sioxsie, I didn't know the song when she covered it and since then I've come to love the White Album and all things on it, yet I still get a pang at the start of the beatles original where I think, oh, it's not Sioxsie

Yup. Me too. Urrrr!!

Another Beatles cover, just on the cusp, by The Flying Lizards. Not quite up to Dear Prudence, but quaint enough...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_iQZiVD_zA

And then, Men Without Hats...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7movKfyTBII&ob=av2e

...and this Peter Gabriel video was quite something at the time...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N1tTN-b5KHg

Ah, the flying lizards, what a track.

This is a song I put on by mistake when I pressed the wrong number on a video juke box and thereby discovered one of my all time favourite bands http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lf6vCjtaV1k&ob=av2e

And to bring it on home, this was my favourite video of the 80s, actually almost certainly the song I was trying to put on that video juke box that day in the Bull public house in Braintree. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AlH2oYedfk

Fantastic tracks! Hang the DJ. Couldn't agree more!

Might as well have these, then...

Pop Song '89

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVjx0zcd960

(I think Michael still looks beautiful nowadays, though in a different way... and the same for Mozz)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMQbzLrvwlE

Oooh, makes me want to go to john lewis, is it still open - no probably not, but never too late to loot.

Bit early... but always relevant...

London Calling

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4dL0lv72oM

I'm not a big Madonna fan but I like the whimsical tone and beatle-esque touches in this-

Dear Jessie:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGYmN-1UQzI

I don't know if anyone has mentioned Paul McCartney but I think that, besides the 60's, the 80's were his best period.

Pipes Of Peace:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sa7Wwmuo9yY

Another group that really says 80's to me is Madness:

Wings Of A Dove

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sa7Wwmuo9yY

You put up Pipes of peace twice by mistake.

Wings of a dove good, but did you learn the dance to swan lake http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=myZ65SKBBUo

Thanks, Terrence, you could say I'm an Absolute Beginner at this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8NZa9wYZ_U

Yeah, Macca had some good stuff at the time. I had a Wings thing, too.

Here's a favourite Bowie track:
Modern Love
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJCBYUKMvMQ&feature=related

...and this song pulled me out of punk and into New Romantic, before I fell into Goth. I were a strange lad back then... a bit of a gad-fly. Not changed much!

Ultravox - Vienna
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5U-NHTW2-Ps

I was pottering about watching some old footage of Mark Knoffler doing some guitar duets with Chet Akins - Imagine is great - and I wondered if there was any Notting Hillbillies and I found this…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BOqgZIzigcI

It was so good it nagged me into reviving this old thread.

I was just listening to Mark Knopfler when I read this. Beautiful Mangone- thanks...

Yeah... great tune.

Has this been posted already? Ah well... always worth another listen...

The Traveling Wilburys - Handle With Care
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8s9dmuAKvU&ob=av2n

What a team! RIP George and Roy.

Here's some tragic news Stan.

Award winning Singer Whitney Houston dies!
Only 48, Whitney - who earned 6 Grammies - died on the eve of this year's Grammy awards.

I'll always remember her for her version of 'I Will Always Love You."
but there were so many other great performances...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldj7w7TvOck

It seems like a lot of the greats Feel Like Going Home.
One more for the heavenly choir...
I'll bet she does some great duets with Amy.

http://www.youtube.com/user/whitneyhoustonmusic?ob=4#p/a/f/0/A4jGzNm2yPI

Yeah... Etta will be there, too. RIP

Almost forgot this...

How come I almost forgot this?

Bruce Hornsby and The Range - The Way It Is

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEe80ynAh4Q&feature=related

Classic!!!!!!!!!

Great song.

Another one, I think...

Stevie Nicks - Rooms on Fire

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwnS_cGfaj4

...and I absolutely played this to death when it came out...

Dire Straits - Telegraph Road

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dd3btVhwr48

Well... I came into this a little bit late, but I listen to '80s pop so much that I should be embarrassed. (Especially since I grew up in the '90s.) But anyway, here are some of my favorites lately that I don't *think* anyone mentioned.

The Lotus Eaters - Put Your Touch on Love

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TjPRqx5oEXM

The The - This is the Day

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phWv7l8Lm_A

ABBA - The Day Before You Came (This could be their masterpiece...)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FPjRAOQxG9w

A-ha - The Swing of Things (It's not their well-known song, but I don't suppose any of you need to hear that one again!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1H_K7gJ84rY

And my favorite song that decade...

Sat in Your Lap - Kate Bush

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33QiZ_593DY

Hey... some great choices there, Donignacio. Haven't heard The The for... well... decades!

Staying with the The The connection... just had to make the 100th post with a sweet little song that kind of kicked it all off for me:

The Smiths - William, It Was Really Bugger All...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XqNYnV0W6o

I was 2 when this came out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-mQyRuHIuA

So needless to say I didn't catch it first time around.

The question is, do people know what film led me to it!?

I would guess Donnie Darko, I know it was featured on it!

Yup, I also just realised the youtube link gives it away straight off the bat!

The Pogues and The Dubliners... The Irish Rover...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHDX9qb2-BQ&feature=fvst

The Dubliners won the lifetime achievement award at the folk awards this year, who'd have thought it would take so long.