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Emma
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Gasp, no!!! It was a rascally post of yours about imagining me with a cello between my legs...*coughs*. You are right about compatibility being hugely complicated. I also notice a tendency these days for obsessive thinking about who is 'right' for you...as though there's someone designed to 'fit' - what does this say about you and your attitude to them as a person? The 'he's/she's so right for me' thing. There's also lots of confusion with the romantic love image and long-term commitment which moves into completely different water. A testimony to potentially enduring love seems to be how much you want to GIVE to the other person and how easily you are able to receive what they give to you, believing that they do it because they love you and it clearly brings mutual happiness to the two of you and those around you. A balance is desirable between the sheer pleasure of the here and now of each other's company and the reassurances of their commitment through unfettered talk about what you might do together in the near and distant future...conversations not charged with fear or grasping but notable for their ease and simple truthfulness.
Smiley
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I always liked the biblical term 'knew' because it seems to me that making love rather than having sex IS about knowing people.
slykle
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I should imagine you'd all be welcome but he wouldn't show his face.
archergirl
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Yup. It's argon, all right.
Smiley
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Oh, good, that last post cured me - I'm on to "Happy Talk" now (smile of relief). Arrggghh! 'Say nighty, night and kiss me..." Well that didn't last long then :o(
Smiley
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For those of you who don't know the song "Happy Talk" it contains the words "... talking of things you like to do." Perhaps there's a new thread in there somewhere...
Smiley
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Sounds like a distant planet close to Krypton.
archergirl
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I'm surprised there wasn't a planet Argon in Star Trek. Right up there in orbit next to Vulcan and Romulus. The Roman Empire of space?
Smiley
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No Neon, Argon and Krypton are rare gasses or something not founders. sorry I thought you said Romulus and Remus - Vulcan is the planet Spock comes from and nowhere near the Klingons.
Smiley
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Yes Kirk is scottish for church and his initial T was for Tiberious so he did, in a way, represent the Roman Catholics in space :)
archergirl
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Yes, I know. But the Romulans came from Romulus, which was the twin planet of Vulcan, not the Klingons. There was no planet called 'Remus', as far as I know. Tak lah!
Smiley
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No I think Remus is Romulus' moon and is not the twin planet of Vulcan... which is where the Vulcan's (like spock) come from.
Smiley
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Oh, sorry, I get you now - it's the mooooonnnn!
archergirl
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Well, the Vulcans and the Romulans used to be one people, didn't they? Then there was a schism and the Romulans 'went bad'? Something like that? I wasn't into it enough to know whether there was a Remus moon orbiting around Romulus or not. I just knew that the Romulans and the Vulcans were cousins...
Smiley
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Yes, you're absolutely right!
archergirl
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Goodness, you _are_ distracted tonight, Mr. Moonman :-)
Smiley
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Yes, well so would you be if you were experiencing some of the things I am... and had no idea why or who!
archergirl
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Oh, is this your invisible lover who visits you between 4-6 pm? I'm most intrigued...!!
Smiley
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I have no idea! I can't really talk about it at the moment... sorry.
archergirl
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Quite all right. I need to go boil myself in the bath to stave off the agony of the kink in my back, before the PX gets back from the pub and disturbs my solitude. Candles, bubble bath, and only me to enjoy it... *sigh* 'Night all.
Smiley
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Good Night, may all your arrows be true.
Smiley
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Still moonstruck, I think I meant 'fly' true... still... yeah. Good night.
Smiley
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Seems I was even wrong about Remus; it's the sister planet of Romulous not its moon.
mississippi
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But about the tories.....
fergal
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Did you hear that thing on Radio 4 yesterday where that Jewish guy said: 'I would like to say to Mr Howard that I am like his grandfather, a Jew, who is a refugee in his country. But unlike Mr Howar I have got dark skin and dark hair. And every time that Mr Howard opens his mouth and talks about foreigners who are invading this country in the words that he does, life for me adn people like me who are working extrememly hard, he is making life impossible for us becausehe is pandering to the xenophobic views of the readers of the Daily Mail or the hunting lobby or the shir county places where hardly any foreigners live.'
emily yaffle
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It is Ag for silver, Argentenium, and Au for gold, Aurum.
smillieboy
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..and the tragic thing is, that Howard feels his only hope of any degree of success in the election, is to attempt to scare the Mail types(most of whom would have voted Tory only) or the people in the shire counties (where the Tories already do well). So all he is doing is hardening the attitudes of his existing core vote and alienating everyone else. This would be fine(electorally) if he was in government with a majority of 160, but he's not and I really can't see the Tories making significant in roads in all but the most marginal of seats. Ha ha.
fergal
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Yep...it's not going to convince voters who don't already vote Tory is it? hahahaa
fergal
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Can you imagine how funny it would be if Oliver Letwin was leader of the tories?
archergirl
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I will be happy to start a new thread on the discussion of astroloy and why it does or does not work, having studied it for the last 20 years or so. It doesn't just work if you believe in it, Missi. A leaf doesn't have to believe in photosynthesis to turn green. Stay tuned...
archergirl
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Maggie Thatcher in a strip club? I _knew_ she was a man...
ely whitley
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Sorry but where, exactly, is the connection between that scientifically proven and abundantly obvious natural process, happening as it does, to plants with no choices to make or minds to bend. And atstrology that can be proven to be inaccurate by its very nature and is based entirely on belief and 'cutting your toes off to get into your shoes'. If you've been studying it for 20 years then please let me give you some of my birth details and then proceed to tell me, accurately, about myself in a valid and useful way that will not only help me but form some kind of proven method of prediction. I'm not being aggressive, by the way, towards you. It's just astrology and all those belief systems that are worth billions in today's market and yet, like religion, are actually no more than opinions. It never ceases to astound me how mush all this unsubstantiated crap gets plastered over the egos of the impressionable and yet if it were say a car or a building, it would need to be proven- solid and reliable, before anyone anywhere would give it the time of day.
ely whitley
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it's funny how this thread has moved from the Torys to astrology and yet the title is just as apt for my post as it was for missi's opener.
Smiley
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Some Librans are just like that.
mississippi
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MM, of course you believe in astrology, why else would spnd twenty years of your life messing with it? Your analogy is beyond me, but suffice it to say that there's nothing on this earth that you could possibly say that would convince me it's anything other than aload of old tosh dreamed up by superstitious people.
archergirl
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Librans are a funny lot. Very gentle folk, many of them. Apart from Mags, that is...
Smiley
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It might just be me that's unlucky but the Libran's I've had relationships with have ben nice in theory but not as nice in practise... Still, when they are nice they are very, very nice...
Smiley
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They make great friends though.
Emma
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*ahem* that was a libran cough
Smiley
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Yes, they have very tactful coughs.
archergirl
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And a very tactful one! Smiley is a Cancer and thus wouldn't necessarily gel with Librans. I have known a few, both male and female (no, not like THAT) but of course being fiery, I get on with their breeziness. But really, it all depends on so many other things: moon sign, ascendant, Venus/Mars positions, etc. so it's difficult to say who is actually compatible with whom, by sign. So what's yer moon sign then? ;-) sorry fergal, but I love winkie faces.
Emma
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I'm libran with libra ascending (double libra) - many stars are uncannily accurate, even the ones in the papers. Not that I believe in any of that nonsense...in the interests of balance I remain sceptically sceptical.
Smiley
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Cancer and Libran aren't really compatible (AS LOVERS) as you say, ag. Still by golly we tried...
archergirl
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Oh Missi, I wouldn't dream of trying to convince _you_! Of course there are people who like to 'test' astrologers by giving them the wrong birth data, etc., just to 'prove' that it works or not. The way to look at astrology is like a roadmap of archetypes; while ancient astrology was used by the Babylonians to predict certain events or pick auspicious times for coronations, battles, etc., modern astrology is very much linked to psychology and can be used as such. People like to bitch about how crap the newspaper astrology columns are and get all het up when someone says a Libra isn't compatible with a Cancer; they are correct in the first instance and incorrect in the second instance, but both are predicated on being far too general in outlook. _Good_ astrology is based on having an accurate time, place, and date of birth. One might say that, using the roadmap analogy again, the moment we pop screaming from our mothers' wombs, the moment is 'mapped' in the heavens. Sceptics might argue that two people born in the same hospital at the very same moment might have completely different lives, and they would be correct. Astrology is not the only influence: there are genetic, socio-economic, some might say even karmic influences put into play on that screaming blob of humanity. Nothing is truly predestined in life; astrology can never truly 'predict' someone's life, nor predict when they'll die, because most of life is down to free will: you can always change your life, down to your last breath. Astrology can only suggest certain archetypes, predispositions, and internal conflicts that may or may not shape the rest of the lifetime. I have found, over those twenty years of study, that a good natal (birth) chart is not only spookily accurate, but can also be of great help to people who are going through difficult internal or external changes, but can make no sense of why they are happening. It's a tool: nothing more. And Libras and Cancers CAN get along, very well.
archergirl
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Ah, it's all in the other planets, I say. But from now on I will avoid quintuple Geminis like the plague... ;-)
Smiley
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Famous last words, AG.
Smiley
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Libras and Cancers DO get along, very well, Archer... for a while. They make great friend but rarely last as long term lovers. I think that starsigns indicate people's potential more than their destiny but I have been amazed by outrageous predictions that have come true - so who knows?
archergirl
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No, I'm seriously going to avoid Gemini men, except as friends. They're like farts in a skillet. I require someone a little more down-to-earth. Since I'm rather, ah, combustible, all that air creates explosions. I want a peaceful life, after all...
archergirl
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Some astrologers do specialise in predictive astrology; many get quite good at it. I prefer psychological astrology as I think understanding how one 'ticks' is much more useful in the long run. I am also fascinated by planetary transits; I've been undergoing some very challenging ones for the last ten years or so. What's most interesting is, that even though I understand very well when when a particular transit is 'hitting' one of my natal planets, and also understand what that transit might 'mean', I often only 'see' just what that transit did, after the fact. Like an, "oh, yes, THAT'S what that was!".
Smiley
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I'm not convinced, AG.

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