Conversation: What is going on with the world?

Posted by Areo on April 27, 2011 - 20:08
from the ABC set New Old Stories

Just for the record: This is part of a channelled conversation I am having, so you are dropped in the middle.

If you want to see the beginning, go here:
http://www.abctales.com/story/juliet-oc/i-am-angel?page=1

continued:
Orifiel:
The Elohim you appear to talk about are the biblical 'demonical' ones, the mixture between angel and human, very common where I come from, I must say, but not allowed in this situation.
For this they were demonised to prevent it would happen more, they were actually the causes for the fallen angels (as those who commited the crime of mixing with the natives were banned), as well as the destruction of the cities of Sodom and Gomorra.
These Elohim are actually quite beautiful to see, but an abomination due to the illegality.

The Elohim where Rael talks about are not them, 'his' Elohim are the ones that put mankind on Earth.

Elohim is not a bad word, it is the plural for El: which is wrongfully translated to Ghodeh (Lord) or later: 'God'.
It is even in most angelic names:
In Gabriel, Michael and Raphael 'el' actually means 'from God' in this setting

First: The Seven Jewish Tribes is a fortunate coincidence, actually it were twelve tribes, the seven were just putting themselves above the others, as usual.
These numbers are coincidental.

About the Seven and the Twelve.
There are Twelve 'Kingdoms' or Systems, whatever you call them, these are represented by the Pantheon of gods: 12 of them, each fom one system.
Then there are the Seven, this is a subgroup of the Twelve.
Like you have the UN, and the EU, which is part of it, and more or less able to make separate deals on a different level.

The Twelve consist of a group of united starsystems, often mentioned in channelings as 'the Galactic Federation', it is actually a bit different, but it covers the name.
The Seven, also called the Seven 'Heavens' or -'Portals' is a group of systems from which a few are member of the Twelve, and some not.
They form a small group of systems with a similar interest: they are an economical organisation they also explore and maintain the connections.
The Twelve is a defensive organisation.

Yahweh (or 'God') is from The Seven, the same as the South American and Asian 'gods'.
Your Pantheon, and the German, Nordic and Roman ones, are from The Twelve.
There has been some competition between them as the Seven wanted to keep Earth under their control, and the Twelve wanted to leave them alone.

For now there is no competition anymore, but this can change if the development of humanity is not what it should be.
That is the final battle, the fight for your survival.
Mankind has to prove it is worthy to be joining the Twelve.
At the moment you are doing a bad job.

It is coming, but you have still a long way to go, and time is limited.

About Yahweh (God) being violent: yes, or at least he does not stop it, nothing human is strange to the Gods.
I know many of this is made up by the priests to justify their deeds and orders, The point is to terrify people into obedience of the priesthood: Look what happens if you disobey the Lord.
'Heaven will be yours when you do what we say'.

Religious institutions will be the first to fall when people find out the truth.

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people find out the truth.' Ah, always fall back on what is truth and as an auxiliary question 43 or 44?

The mixture between angels and humans, is it elochim? or Nephelim.. i think Nephelim is the correct answer..

Elochim are the ones who opposed god and Herubim the angels near god.. in Ancient scripts

We have this information in Genesis and what rael refers to his colorful videos is just 1-2-3 words from this HUGE book.. At the same time it looks like he formed a religion with it.. his website got lots of seminars, etc.. a kind of reconstruction of jewish beliefs.. oh dear.. well, we new this information he gave..

I dont doubt after all, I told you once that they have their own creators.. my question is.. ok.. elochim created the jewish tribes, who created the other ones..? It is not them..we have totally different values, dna, teachings and more information from the past than them.. At least my tribe is created from the 12 "gods" of olympus..However we dont know that directly, but we do know that few of the 12 where cloning scientists.. Thats why if you find an original greek at this time, we do have different dna code that any other human.. (extra code in our dna.. maybe the biggest in the world).

so elochims created jewish and El's created the rest?

just an extra notice here.. the 12 gods of olympus have nothing to do with the Egyptian ones.. asthar the Egyptian goddess for example has nothing to do with the greek Aphrodite.. i told you once that they confused in translation.. it was a characterization that English researchers confused to be one and the same.. "wrong" translation..

in the other hand.. are you sure this are going to come? I doubt.. I have the feeling that elochims are already here.. you can feel it.. sneaky ones.. At the same time dozen of conspiracy theories and scientists speak about a possible visit by alien species and they WILL BE AGGRESSIVE.. (how they know before they even meet them).. that rings me a bell that they know..

anyhow.. the one who will appear as a jewish leader in the feature as a saver.. will be a cloned one..

Orifiel.
Elohm created human, period.
Blacks, Whites, Yellows, Browns, Reds, they are all results of the same experiment.
Hebrews, are just another subgroup
You focus too much on them as you still seem to make them source of evil, instead of a tool.

well areo, we do have different information.. we know that god created human (El's).. jewish messed up with elohims and nephelims was the result of it..

We do also have info that this elohims in a point, they banned from their planet.. thats why they lived among the jewish tribe (sodoma and gomora)

god tried to come close to jewish people and promised them land, but they messed up again.. thats how the story goes..

what you told now that elohims created humans.. surely not my tribe.. as we deadly hate them.. and monon labe.. let them come.. Huge surprise with huge fireworks.. Is gonna be really wild ride with lots of cloned ARIS near by.. lol Our information from ancients speak about we came from another place.. from serios.. and elohims with jewish tribe from andromeda..

we have different teachings and prefer to stick with my peoples.. most of them are not just christian.. but ancient greek..

As I told you before, I dont hate jewish.. but they dont stop being a bad race.. sneaky, liers and all the rest.. but as I said again.. the origin, body and blood type today, cannot definite whose what.. today the spirit is what matters most..

For example, I could very easily point you even greeks that are worse than jewish!! lol.. You feel it that they have jewish soul.. lol..

in the other hand, there many very good jewish people.. And thats their mistake.. they play with blood type games.. we are infornt of it.. its not the simple people that I speak about.. but those who take decision over their souls..

Areo, I could also give you more info about the stories we know, from genr to genr.. for example, what happened after the cataclysmic event.. not here on earth.. but what elohims did to my people.. (elsewhere). So, I assume we have open business with this gentlemen.. let them come..

the only certain thing is, we do not expect elohims for us..

You are right with the Nephilim, I mixed them up in names, not in appearance, still they are not the demons described.

Most of your national stories have a real event as base, I know, as most will have similar versions in other cultures as well.

Many terrible things happened to your, and other, people in the name of 'Elohim' (mostly not on their request), these terrible deeds were done many times from both sides as well, but I do not want to go to deep into that.

What I hope is that humanity, as a whole, will face what is coming, and makes the right choice.
Not based on greed, not based on fear, not on revenge, but on what is good for all.

@Celticman:
It is not question 43 or 44, it is the final question.
And the truth is not always what is preached.
Everybody has his own version of the truth, it is just a matter of who shouts louder or has the biggest gun.

And I am telling you..

through this colorful Rael's text.. what can u see through it..? regards what you said

"What I hope is that humanity, as a whole, will face what is coming, and makes the right choice.
Not based on greed, not based on fear, not on revenge, but on what is good for all."

you can find direct threats.. is it.. so let them come and feel what threat means.. they destroyed whole star systems.. i dont doubt that in a point they told him " if other comes before us.." tell them about us and to accept us, as creators.. lol.. sounds very jewish.. lol they will pay for their deeds

oh dear.. they destroyed whole civilizations.. I will not accept this beasts.. And why they scared to say that they are banned..

This race is damned..

Sorry but I will not follow that areo.. if they where truly needed forgiveness, they wouldn’t hide their truth and they wouldn’t ask temples to come in and accept them as leaders.. lol!!

And what is the right choice Areo.. to beg them? To obey them? To become their slave? Sorry, that is not me..

our people are more advanced in their technology nothing to fear, either ways.. I preffer to die than follow this beasts..

Then dont ask me "why" we called Aris and Zeus at 2000 in Methodia.. the answer is, some things MUST happen.. :)

Orifiel, the civilisations destroyed were the neighbors of the Hebrews in the middle east.
Not other planets.
It were more city-states in the area.
Priests wanted more power so they invented a message from God that the next town has to be destroyed because they worship the wrong Gods (so cannot be controlled).
Join us or die

The Big Flood, Babylon, Sodom and Gomorra, they were set up intentionally.
But then that do humans still with something they think is dangerous for them, don't they?
Kill all cows in a region because there is a disease, instead of curing them.
Destroy millions of birds to prevent the birdflu (Good they do not do that with each other anymore).
Abuse monkeys and rats to test medicine and makeup on, and kill them when finished as they are no longer of use.
I have never killed or hurt an animal intentionally, still I am here already a very long time, some kill animals every day, for fun.

If I would say to you: "Orifiel, here is a place where you can live with your people", just to keep you all close together and easy to reach.
What would you do?
Kick everybody else out, even 5000 years later, because someone says that some God told that to his leader? Even if you can never prove or confirm that?
No you would not, I may hope.
And I would not have said that with the background thought that you can destroy everybody who is already living there.
That is totally a local descision.

Nothing to blame the Elohim on, be it that they could have prevented it to happen, if they were there, and if they wanted.
Do not think Earth is main-stream business in the universe, it is just another colony, left alone in the dark.

It is good you say you are ready to face them, as they indeed have something to explain.
Do not accept everything said to you just like that.
Not by me, not by the government, not by a church, not by Rael, not by the Elohim.
Use your own judgement, but try to think without prejudice, remember: One is innocent until proven guilty.
And you cannot blame a single person for what his people once did, if you do that you put yourself on the same low level.

I am, like Earth, a bit in a 'forgotten' position with my companions here.
So be assured we have some things to say as well.
My Lady was here for a long time and only left recently (from our point of view), so we are not really without contact.

Earth technology is like pre-stone age technology compared to theirs, you cannot even hurt them if you drop an atom bomb on them, they can wipe this planet out of space in minutes, if they wanted.

There is no need to fight them anyway, they mean you no harm.

What you have to fight is 'the other side': Those who manipulate governments to get their way, to get more and more power.
Those who really control what is happening here.
And those who control them.
Some have shown their real face already.

there is also some stories from us areo, for what happened after they banned them.. not here on this planet.

And there is a reason why all this temples around the world, were built.. The point is, these are the deadliest enemies of EL and the greeks. thats why I told you that the story rael says is 1 sided only.. When they come (officially), the 12 will come 3-6 months after (that’s what ancient greek prophecies speak about).. in Christianity is almost the same thing.. that 3-6 months after Jesus will come.. this information’s almost fit each other.

the ancient philosophers always said that the conflict started in Lagos A and Lagos B systems.. and they gave lots of information about the races.

They didn’t said that elochims created all human race.. but they said many races across the universe brought some people from their race, here because of the conflict.

well either ways.. when they all arrive, THEN and only THEN.. we will learn some truths.. because if I consider elochims the way they spoke as a jewish style of character.. then I assume that only lies and deception we will get from them.. if you read Raels psd.. is more like a jewish ravine but in the occasion.. he says they will abandon israel and find other chosens.. Lol Lol..

well let me tell you something.. or god.. does not make any exceptions and the word chosens.. does not belong into our vocabulary

When I said our technology.. Didn’t mean that greek earth technology or the human technology is better than theirs.... ;) lol

well I am not going to give more details.. about our stories.. it is just stories right? if they become true? We are about to see VERY exiting things..

Other very recent and western mostly stories came up lately.. that a conflict destroyed most of our other systems civilizations.. few left but we do have very powerful allies.. Whatever happens, the story is 2 sided and not 1 sided that some wish to be.

Actually it does not matter who will come first, or who will be later.
The Twelve and the Seven are the same, after all, the Seven are part of the Twelve.
It is just that they have other interests.
But they will all join against darkness.

The aggression in humanity is not working in their advantage. If they do not change, and prove they are worthy to join us, it might be too late.

Aggression or hate feelings against other living beings is definitely not a good starting point.
It might sound strange from the mouth of a soldier, but it is the truth.

It will always turn against you.

Ecanus, if u read the message they give and ask, is a direct threat and does remind me their attitude as described on Genesis..

so if they willing to follow the light as you said.. There is no human being to make that call.. or take decision’s for em or for others.. Because history proved that always ends up in a deception.

I will not built temples for them and I will not accept them as any kind of creators. At least my creators.. I don’t feel like it, sorry, those who feel it pray alleluia for em, I dont.. I will trust EL word or the 12's word.. Not them. I will trust those who gave civilization to my people and protection and life, If all this things happened and will happen!..

And thank god, I want to believe that when our people come, we will know.. as they did gave us some signs and the way they will do it.. so if elochims try to deceive us (as this is one of their skills), we will know..

Even if they couldn’t find it each other.. they could find a way to separate the creations with their creators.. (lol..) so they can move us elsewhere.. that will due.. So the creations of elochims can stay with elochims and the creations of the 12 can stay with the 12.. sounds fair enough.. I say this, because there is scenarios like it floating arround..

You separate while there is no difference, you judge while there is nothing to judge.

Nobody is deceiving you, only you.
You see only what you want to see, and judge on assumptions.
You mix bible, mythology and reality in a way that fits you best.
I guess that is your choice.
You will know soon enough, as the day is near.

They do not threaten anyone, may that be clear.
It is the hope that mankind drops its aggression and all the other things that only lead to darkness.
As that is the only way to peace.
If they do not want peace, humanity can live on, keep killing each other and fighting wars.

Keep in mind the Gods do not need you, they only want you to join them as you are their relatives.

History only proved that deceptions were made by man, to gain power, to rule over others.
Even the Twelve and Seven did, once, to rule over your ancestors, to play with them, as pieces on a chessboard.
Were it not Zeus and Hera who fought a battle on the expense of Hercules?

Nobody of the Twelve or Seven wants a temple!
The priests want temples, to indoctrinate, to plant fear, to make you do what they want.

And guess what? You already do.

Areo you shouldn’t say that.. remember the way “you” reacted about mythodia? It’s the same thing. You and those who accept it, can follow whatever you want, the elochims. Those who don’t follow the Elochims, surely they have their reasons too. Surely they are one race, but a bad cast.. a banned group of people from their world.

When the 12 comes our people or yah comes I bet, from the way you reacted, you will oppose them as I do with elochims right now.. And you reacted, more like we did a mistake or we shouldnt do that.. why, if they follow the light, why you scare the idea of returning back.

Myths are truths changed dozen of times, but they always keep the basic true meaning inside them.. Bible is not genesis and I do not refer to bible or mosses..
As these are not my people and not our story to speak about.

Its you concern and your decision to follow whatever you want.. Those who gave civilization and democracy and those who gave sodoma and gomora and destruction with their choices.. Its my decision and concern about my choice as well.

I need to be honest, I didnt knew at all the story that elochims willing to return (alone.. to find the light but scared to face yah or the 12, hmm) or all this stuff I read latelly and are really interesting to know and when I read this story (rael's story) and you supporting it(?), in a matter of second remind me, your reaction about the twelve and the mythodia.. Thats why I say that anybody have the right and his/her reasons to follow whatever they want.. Because it seems we server different interests, is it.

as for what you said, that they dont threat.. OH yes they do.. rael website in the PSD version says; those who will not accept us (elochims) as the creators, they will feel our fierce..

they also say that they will choose other chosens, I am sure jwish people will get ungry about it.. lol Very very ungry.. they proved that.. but I believe they will find the light at the end. I have many friends in this life.. I care about em.

there is also a huge possibility that this is just a new kind of religion with rael as a leader, who wants to believe that their creators will choose them as chosen’s than the jewish people.. whatever.. I dont care its not our stories and not our beliefs..

in christianity says that first pseudo prophets will come to present the fallen (antichrist) as a saver, as a god.. etc..

in Ancient greek stories they say that when the bad guys come, then they will follow and return as well.. so both stories have the same meaning on it.. will see.. As I said, I choose to follow my countries beliefs and christianity.. than the fallens in our language.

as an extra from all this.. I am not scared.. not anymore. And I dont judge.. I said that I am a suspicius creation.. one of my kind! :)

Actually I do not recall saying anything on Mythodia.
It calls for Zeus and Ares, that is it, the Leader of the Twelve and their warlord.
It means they think thay have to defend something, or need help in a fight.
I may hope they will not be disappointed, as the interests of the Twelve may not be theirs.
As you know the US and a number of other countries, including the NASA are not lead by their President, but bij others, who are not always working in the interest of the world, but more of themselves, their money and power hunger.
The Twelve will only think in the interest of Earth and how that fits in their universe.
They will, without any doubt, join my Lady in Her struggle as Her interest is theirs.
Yahweh and the Seven will have to cooperate, they messed up more as enough.

The Elohim have not much to do with this, they are old, and human was created by them long before they were put on earth.
Rael tells is like he does because everybody wants to hear his planet is the centre and most important of the universe, makes them feel good.

The DNA patterns have been used on many worlds to spread mankind, only here it went a little bit wrong somewhere, possibly because of some native DNA that was used to make them able to live here.
Humanoids are known to be aggressive, this is normally successfully surpressed, but not here.

About the Elohim:
The Elohim have nothing to say about what happens to humankind.
They are no longer the scientists who can kill a lab specimen when it no longer does what they want.
They do exactly what the priests on Earth said for the past 10000 years:'Obey me, see only me as God, and you will be fine
Worship another God, or do not live the way I tell you to live, you will be cursed/burn in Hell'.
Does it seem familiar?
A rule based on fear is not good, that is one of the mistakes Yah made as well.

They will try to cause fear (actually they are already doing this), disorder, and war.
Divide and rule.

You have to look through the events in the past years to see what is really going on.
See them as a chess game.
Move forward, block, sacrifice, win.

Its not the gods we expecting, maybe urs.. not mine.. Calling these beasts gods makes me feel seek even thinking about it.. (Honestly)..disgusting

Jewish in their books have gods of fear, punishment,etc.. They always lived in fear and punishment after all, I dont blame them.. and especially what you said (divide and rule) is a Jewish teaching!! are you kidding me? Devide and rule destroyed philosophy. And please dont tell me that I have something with jewish.. I dont have anything with them, by saying the truth..

If you want to know what the 12 taught us, read Hellenic history.. not Jewish.. not bible.. Jewish have their own history, we got ours.. The only differense is we serve different interests and we've met different re-presentitives at that time and they gave us all the creation and truths about the world.. we never lived in blind. As elochims forced jewish to be..

Genesis is Greek as well. (The birth). But we do have older books than that.. the creation of the Universe for example..

yah or the 12, never created fear to anybody. I know our philosophy and democracy that is almost forgotten. Its so pure and such a freedom on it, how can it be to fear the true freedom and the free will.. So please do not confuse things and books..

I also feel that this monsters elochims are already here. That’s why they try to create fear to the world the today "scientists".. That if aliens come, they WILL BE aggressive..

sure they do.. with all this madness that rules the world.. I cant wait for the 12 or yah to come.. It is about time.. As for the Mythodia.. Nasa is not the one who called them.. I know some things more than an average greek, as I was there before they even perform it 2-3-4 times.. even if the only 2 performs are known.. Zeys is the leader of the 12 and Arhs is his son.. whats wrong about it..

And I did said in older messages that I call them as well and send them stuff, with concentration method.. I hope it works.. :)

Orifiel,

I call them 'Gods' because that is the most commonly used name for them on Earth, if you want me to call them different I can call them just 'The Twelve', or by their names, but I still mean the same group.
They are no Gods for me so I don't care how to call them.

I do not see why you disagree with me, it may be that our english skills are not enough to make you understand the meaning of my words (no offense).

What I am trying to explain to you is:
The fear and terror you talk about are created by the religions/Priesthood, not by the Twelve or the Seven.
Actually I do not care a bit about what the Jews/Moslims/Christian/any other religion/Rael write in their books to scare people with.

The 'Gods' do not rule by fear, but by mutual respect, they are a collective, so important descisions are made in the most democratic way possible: by all.
Less important things are made by a smaller group, or even by local staff, it is not useful to engage millions to decide on a local thing.
If the leaders lose credit due to abuse of rights they disappear from leadership.

To enforce rules:
What really will happen is that, if you commit a crime, or do not follow the rules, you are called in, and have to clarify this, if the clarification is approved nothing will happen and you will get out with a warning, if you can not explain and it is rejected you are kicked back to Earth to retry, until you do it right.
There are other means of course, but this is the most common one.

Only when it looks like something goes terribly wrong they might use psychological means.
Violence would be the latest resource.

Zeus himself violated laws by creating children by Earth women, which was much discussed in those days, and he still suffers the consequences.
Fortunately for him the Twelve are not so strict in this as the Seven, where it is seen as a very serious crime.

You called your Gods DNA technicians yourself once, and you you call these Elohim DNA techs beasts, even while your Gods use their techniques?
Is this only because one man (Rael) tells this in his book?
He tells you he speaks on behalf of the 'Gods'/Elohim/Reallians/whatever, does that not sound familiar to you?
Mind you: I am not defending the Elohim, nor speaking on their behalf.
I do not stand for their methods their philosophy or their words.
Their Gen techniques are commonly used, else you would not be here, but that would not mean they have anything to say on you.

What the Gods brought to Earth was basically good, but still the priests between you and the Gods interpreted their words in such a way they had advantage on it.

No areo, its not my English that bad not to get your point, it is just that YOU cal gods or whatever, those who have nothing to do with the creation. So it’s more like you present faulty ones as the creators.

At least in my race, we know very well who created us.. and its not elochims.. gggg... this horrible beasts the only thing they tried to do and they still trying to do is to destroy human race and keep few for the appetites. slaves.

I do agree that they come from the same race.. but if you as a human make a discovery, it’s a lie and deception to say that I did that.. Because we are both humans.. is it?

Let me give you another example.. (a wrong one, but a more clear to give you the point).. lets say that one day the talibans versus the westerns win the battle.. and in a thousand of years of progress, the talibans will say to others “ we created democracy, we gave civilization to the others, we are your gods.. ) lol.. hahahahahaha

Their kind yes.. but not those who called after elochims.. those are the jealous ones, the hateful ones.

they separated.

If areo (the angel who communicates with you is trully areo and not someone else instead), next time I will suggest an investigation. But I bet they already know if something is wrong. I remember once, that another human who claims he is an angel, said that this is not areo, but someone else.. I am asking you as a human consuss.. are you 100% that he/she is AREO?

She is free to choose whatever she wants.. but deceiving people? Is a bad bad thing.

(Taliban is an FBI copyright protected word, meaning that only westerns call these people talibans.. that’s not the reality and it’s a bad example what I brought to, just to make you understand my point). Talibans are just locals who defend their interests.

elochims are the damned race of their part in the world.. if they want to find the light? they have to deal with their durty sins from the past.. and face their own people.. NOT US..

so here is an alternative, as elochims seems to fear a bit the comming of the EL.. so lets say, a live debeit would be nice.. for the living humans. Then and only then will understand what really happened.. if that day comes soon enough.

in the other hand.. I bet when we die, we remember, learn the truth about it..

And a question. Elochims are banned from the seven heavens but when we die, we go there.

some souls are sooo ancient and we know what really happened.. do you mean with your beliefs areo.. that souls live in a lie? because if elochims are the creators.. we shouldnt stay on the seven heavens.. right? in 7 heavens is such a freedom and democracy there.. nothing can hold us...

so If I knew that my creators are banned.. with suuuch a way.. is more like i agree that I am a bad creations for the EL.. I wouldnt stay in the 7 heavens because of it.. right? Then TELL me.. why I am staying there.

I trully believe that elochims created something in this world.. and these are the Nephelims.. the demons after that who makes humans suffer for thousands of years..

and an ancient word of mouth says : that the kids, looks and behaves always like mummy and daddy.. So I do believe they have to come and take them away, live as a happy family..

I was talking abour our english, not just yours, I depend on the skills of my channel, and English is not his mother language.
So it is not easy to explain something clear enough for everybody to understand.

But I will try

I said the 'gods' are the creators of mankind, nothing more, nothing less.
If these are the Seven or the Twelve, that is irrelevant as it was a joint effort, there were a number of tribes planted, each in their own biosphere.
Everybody living now on Earth evolved from one of these tribes, each tribe had its own 'manager' (not the proper word, but it the first I came up with, you can call it God, if you want), each tribe got its own training and development, some better as others.
There is no tribe that came later.
Three tribes, Your tribe, coming from around Iraq, the tribe that lives now in China, and the one in Northern Africa received the most advanced training, do not ask me why, it was decided.
When one of the colonies (I will not go in to which one) broke the rules, the experiment was cancelled.
They were released in the world, as they were still seen as promising, to continue development on their own.

I was there, I was assigned as a guardian for one of the Biospheres.

The Seven were assigned to control the planet and keep track of progress.
This because they were best equipped for the task.

The Twelve were present as well, their representatives controlled the tribes that came from Iraq and the North African one.
But overall control was for the Seven.

At one moment the commander of the Seven decided that external influences were bad for the inhabitants of the planet and he started a process to move all other 'colleagues' out, he wanted to be the single ruler, so called to 'simplify management'.

The last one to leave was his own sister, with who he co-existed in all regions he controlled, she also had great influence in all other regions.
Her kindness and concern about the humans was praised all over.

To prevent the humans to think back to the old times, he figured out a plan to demonise them, make them look bad.
It worked, but he never managed to get rid of all memories.

We were left here by his Sister to protect her interests until She returns, which we still do.
We protect Her followers, Her remembrance and develop awareness.

The Elohim think they 'own' their creation, like a patent, and that they can do with it whatever they want.
They might own the original blueprint, but have nothing to say about it once it is used.

About being Gods or not.
Nobody said they were Gods, that was invented by humanity, they see creatures looking like them, but still different, doing things they have no clue about how they are done.
If you have no electricity, how do you explain a lamp?
If you never heard about an airplane, or a spaceship, how would you explain it when you see one?
The first White people coming to tribes deep in the Amazone region who were still in the stone age less as 50 years ago, were thought to be Gods.
They come in the belly of a big bird, and kill prey on hundreds of steps distance with thunder coming from their hands.
They can make a light in a cage go on from a distance, they use fire coming form their hands to light a campfire.
They can take your soul by pointing the evil eye at you, and then capture it on a piece of flexible white stuff.
They look like the ancient Gods that our ancestors talked about, white, and round blue eyes.
They must be Gods, what else can they be?

It happened the locals carried grass to the plane to feed it.

It is just what you believe in.

About me being real.
I already told a few times I am no Angel, Angels are from Yah, I am not.
I was created by his Sister.

My name is not Areo, I said I can be called that way, I have no name as such, no Angel, Guard or Protector has a name, we are instruments.
The known names were invented by humans as well, but it comes closest to how I am 'called'.
If you think of someone in your mind, you do not think his name, you see an image of the person, which you associate with the name.
So Areo I am for you, my 'mental image' is not for anybody to know as it will make me appear instantly next to the caller.
As what happens to Angels as well.

I am unable to lie, that is against my nature, so I do not understand the word 'deceive' in this context.
I cannot deceive, it will burn me.

I have no interest in the Elohim or what happens to them, they will get what they deserve.
I have no interest in the Twelve or the Seven, I only live in the interest of my creator.
Her interest is the well-being of humanity, so that is mine as well.
I will do anything in my power and within the law to protect Her interest.

Nephilim are creatures that were the result of a mix between Angels and humans, as that combination on a unaware planet is not allowed, even criminal, they were almost all rounded up and 'removed'.
They were originally no danger, but if you see all your brothers and sisters being removed for something they cannot help, you will not stay friendly.

This is from the Channel of Areo

Look, I do not know if She (definitely a 'She') is Areo, just like I do not know if you are who you say you are, you can say a lot, but I still have to believe you on your word, don't I?.
I asked her name once, as you should when you are in contact like this, the image I got in my mind and the sound were 'Areo', and that is how she said I should call her.

I have a 'good feeling' when I am in contact, warm, protected, like my mother is standing behind me, holding my hands to help me writing, I feel only deep love coming from her.
Only once I felt anger and helplessness, that was during the Events in Egypt, I understood she was not allowed to interfere, which caused some frustration.
Until now all she wrote somehow 'fits' with what I found out later, and what she wrote earlier.
Things I thought were non sense, were explained months later, by other sources, or in her writing.

She writes about things I have no clue about, I am not religious at all, and my theological knowledge is not that good.
Hence I have to verify things sometimes by looking them up.
(Yes, even I do not take all she tells for granted).

What I found out about Areo more or less fits with the ideas I already had on her, even that near death experience I found, typical her way to act.

Anyway, you believe what you want, or not, that is up to you.
I think you have a lot of hatred in your mind, which is not always good, as it colors your actions.
I am open minded, that is probably the reason Areo has chosen me, for me is everybody equal, only the deeds are important, in the end.

ps: I think Rael talks a lot of rubbish, that is my opinion, he is putting a new 'church' together it seems, so just the same old story.
Areo does not want to say that, but I do.

“I said the 'gods' are the creators of mankind, nothing more, nothing less.
If these are the Seven or the Twelve, that is irrelevant as it was a joint effort,”"

Then I agree with that Areo, but you have to understand that each race have the bad souls and good souls.. Eloxim in our language is the bad face of your race..
Another missunderstanding.. we never called angels as gods.. eloxim is a part of the angelic tribe.. Also herubims, nephelims, archs, etc..
That’s why I react very bizzare about calling an instrument of god, as a god.. We also not taking in granted the knowledge that ancients left us. As the fallens in our language, wanted to be gods.. That’s why they left the 7 heavens to create their own world.

“Anyway, you believe what you want, or not, that is up to you.
I think you have a lot of hatred in your mind, which is not always good, as it colors your actions.”

Hatred about the fallens and what they did? Maybe yes.. hatred about humans? No but I feel ungry.. (I cant translate that this anger is going to transform into hate.. because if I see anything in front of me and needs my help, there is no way to turn my back on it. So do I really hate? I think not.. Angry because of all this madness, YES. I wonder why I was born in such a world.. But lots of events happening and I feel excited about it, maybe I wanted to experience them as its rare to feel and experience events like this we live on and are also coming soon enough. It is a very critical age after all.

“”Look, I do not know if She (definitely a 'She') is Areo, just like I do not know if you are who you say you are, you can say a lot, but I still have to believe you on your word, don't I?.””

Oh yes its me, I am not a channeler to let others speak through me.. I am all me.. in flesh and bones.. lol

““My name is not Areo, I said I can be called that way, I have no name as such, no Angel, Guard or Protector has a name, we are instruments.””

Then tell me, why my beloved angel, always will tell me his name? Why even Lucifer introduced in a dream of mine as Lucifer.. Why in ancient methods of exorcism the best way to fight this is to learn the name of the intruder.. Or else is pointless. You all have names… markings maybe that translated to a word or a phrase? Millions of people experience stuff like that and speak about it, why shall I not believe it..

“I have no interest in the Elohim or what happens to them, they will get what they deserve.”

Alilulia.
But I do feel compassion for some (1 i saw helping us) (demons?).. how to call them.. nephelims..?
In many dreams of mine I saw many times even demons helping angels some times because some actions where beyond their expectations and they were afraid what is coming.. Why once a demon told me that they pre existed human race.. in ancient books (not bible).. says that demons created after they fall from the 7 heavens and they came to earth to deceive human race, the beloved of god..

Others say that demons created when elochims mated with humans and created nephelims.. nephelims are demons for some.. so what’s true and what’s not.. if demons pre existed before human race.. Then it can’t be nephelims.. is it? But fallen angels.. In both cases demons created with human race.. (?).
Or maybe the demon who spoke to me, referred to me individually?

But I didnt got answer to my question about the 7 heavens if the elochims (the fallens) created us.

I say that I feel compassion for 1 big demon I saw in my dream once.. Sounds strange.. but yes.. I felt the agony in him, I saw signs of light inside him, even if he followed his masters.. He acted because his conciseness told him that this shouldn’t happen. So he helped a legion of angels..

Well I say this and feel it as a bizarre thing to feel.. but I am sure god feels compassion for all..

and a question that came up for something you said..

"I have no interest in the Elohim or what happens to them, they will get what they deserve.”

What do you mean with that.. what they did from you point of view that they will get what they deserve..

"Oh yes its me, I am not a channeler to let others speak through me.. I am all me.. in flesh and bones.. "
yes, but are you who you say you are?
I know you are not. :-)
When I log on as Areo I am Areo, are you Orifiel?
I am very sure you are not.

Do not say Elohim is a bad side of my race, as they are not my race, they are just as much my race as yours.
I cannot be insulted, but if I could you would have done that by saying I am the same race as the Elohim.

"Then tell me, why my beloved angel, always will tell me his name?"

If Your angel Mi-ke'el ('Who is like God') would say his name you would not understand it, as your brain is not able to receive the sign yet.
Like, if you have no ears, how would you hear a voice?
If you would understand, and were able to 'say' his name, he would appear instantly next to you, regardless where he was before.
So he tells you,like all angels, the name he is known by on Earth: Michael, when you think of him, you will see his image in your mind, that will be enough for him to know you think of him, but it is still not his Angelic name, so he can come when he feels for it.

The same with Lucifer (Light Bearer), also an Angel, if you could pronounce his Angelic name, he would be next to you as well, instantly.
And everybody knows the name Lucifer, so no need to introduce.
The same, if you mention his name, or think of him, he knows, depending on how strong you think of him he will come if he pleases to do so, or if he needs you for something.

So, if you know the Angelic name, you have power over the Angel or Demon.
Most demons were once angels and old demonised gods, so they have angelic names.
That is why the name of a demon is important in an exorcism.
You can summon him out of its victim.
The Exorcism process is not just calling names, the entire process around it is to weaken the demon and to make the exorcist stronger at the same time to prevent the demon taking him over when he is summoned.
There is also a lot of acting around it, a good and strong medium can banish a demon as well, without the candles and stuff, just by using arguments, unfortunately a priest is no medium.

Nephilim (the fallen ones) are called demons by God because they are the result of a crime, but only on a planet where it is seen as a crime to mate with locals.
And it were no Elohim who made the Nephilim with humans, it were Angels, called beney ha'elohim which is hebrew for: the 'sons of God', mostly referred to as the 'Creatures from heaven'.
I guess your mistake comes from that name.. the single word 'Elohim' translates to ''Gods'.

Why are you here?
You are most probably here because your soul wanted to learn something, once it has done that it will return to the light.
Souls are there to learn and evolve by learning, a soul wants to know how it is to be killed (for instance), it discusses this with other souls and they decide to help each other, possibly another one wants to know how it is to kill someone.So they help each other.
When they succeed they return and go for the next study.
You will know when you are back in the light, but as long as you are here your entire life will be the way to the experience.
Why do you stay here?
I do not know, I assume you are not finished yet.

Basically you were a creation of your father and mother, humans can reproduce very well without gods..
But I guess that is not what you meant with your question about your creators.
I will try to give an answer with an example: The fact that Edison invented the lamp does not mean he made every lamp that existed, it just means he invented the first one .
It also does not mean he owns every lamp, or that he has anything to say about lamps in general.

The seven heavens are just a number of planets, if you have the means to move around you can move wherever you want.
You can even move today if you know where to find the gate.

Actually the demi-gods (the result of a mix of Gods and humans) are more or less Nephilim as well.
Extreme strong, tall, and capable of doing special things.
Goliath was one, Heracles, Gilgamesh, Garuda, Orpheus.
Be it that they were not made by Angels (beney ha'elohim) but by Gods (Elohim).
Even Gods are subject of the law, be it different ones as others, so these mixes were not seen as demons.

There was not for nothing such a commotion between the gods about the children of Zeus.

"When I log on as Areo I am Areo, are you Orifiel?
I am very sure you are not."

If you mean the real angel Orifiel, the angel of forests, no I am not the angel of forests.

I am a human who uses the nick name orifiel, if that due.. in the other hand, I dont think I am posessed or something, if that is what you mean. lol

"Do not say Elohim is a bad side of my race, as they are not my race, they are just as much my race as yours."

Yes it is the bad side of your race for us, for humans elocims is the bad side of the angelic race, thats why we call them some times elochims or fallen. The opposite of Elochim is Herubim.""

In the other hand, when you say that you are an instrument.. Sounds very.. Cheeky answer.. if you were just an instrument, you would not be able to communicate, speak, think, have conciseness.. but just an object to use when its needed.

Nephelims are the children of the fallen.. not the fallen itself.

"Why are you here?
You are most probably here because your soul wanted to learn something, once it has done that it will return to the light."

No I didnt ask that (Its a failure if I ask you something like that), I've seen the light, I've been there many times and I am still trying to be and belong there.. I am here on this forum as I am everywhere else that I found stories about stuff like this.. Taking lots of info, putting away most of it and keeping the romantic part of it. I am not creating new stories, Just trying to find similarities with 100's of theories that may be a truth in there. Nothing more.

Trust me areo or the human who writes for u.. lol.. I am really REALLY hard.. to brake.. maybe harder than you think.

As for the killing thing, Ive seen very bizarre dreams and I believe I've passed through genocides, starvation, plague, heavens, other planets.. etc.. lol Or I do have huge imagination after all.. :)

For example once I saw me in a body that I didn’t recognize.. I was me.. but with the face and body of someone else.. The dream was really hard..terror.. but in my path inside my dream, I've met several bodies that told me "go on, we are your past bodies, experiences, we keep them away"... stuff like that.. never seen a dream like it.. so I noticed many different type of lifes, races Ive born and experiences.. If I am here, i am here for a reason I dont know.. because I feel useless here at this point but I am sure the time will come when I am needed.. In the other hand, I am enjoying right now the comming of the new age.. 2012 theories, it is so fascinating..
Hmm.. Ive seen my responsibilities in the other side, but I am not going to tell.. as many dreams of mine with the paranormal involved with it.. I am a very busy man in the other side, trust me.. lol

As for the naming thing you wrote down, saws that you do have a name.. is it.. my brain is just fine btw.. hahahahaha.. I hope so..

The seven heavens are rulled by the god yah/EL.. not? Sorry I am not used to call him yah or whatever.. I am used to call him (Jesus, father and holly spirit) So if you and ur mistress call our god warlord.. Its a bad word, if he hates us as creations, why he accomodate us.. Why he gave us philosophy, democracy, to love and forgive.. ?

thats the questions.. I hope its more clear.

In the other hand, what elochims left behind is their abominations in a spirit form to make humans suffer.. and now they are interested to come back? oh give me a breake.. they are comming to meet their children apparently.. :) (the other ones).. Maybe you reffering to Anunaki and your are confused with the elochims???

So if I consider the whole thing as a misunderstanding and mistranslation of Genesis then you shouldn’t learn from English spoken people!! Areo..

Greeks wrote genesis and when we say the word Elochims, is the bad angels.. is the angels that turn their back to god because of human.
Then they came to earth and did what they did.. oh dear.. Everything westerns know is miss translated versions of our histories.. greeks and jewish.. lol

I hope now its more clear.
So don’t expect that if someone comes here and tell us.. HELLO we are the elochims.. we are going to kick his #$mm hahahahahahaha trust me :)...

Lets stop discussing about nephilim and Elohim as you and I differ on the meaning of similar sounding words in different languages and cultures.

We both have a different meaning for the words, lets agree on that at least.

As for the ancient monotheistic humans, there can not be more as one God, they had to find another way to describe these powerful creatures, so they called them Angel,Demon, or even Elohim.

"The seven heavens are rulled by the god yah/EL.. not? Sorry I am not used to call him yah or whatever.. I am used to call him (Jesus, father and holly spirit) So if you and ur mistress call our god warlord.. Its a bad word, if he hates us as creations, why he accomodate us.. Why he gave us philosophy, democracy, to love and forgive.. ?"

Where did I say Yah/God Hates you? He does not hate you, or any human.
Do not put words in my mouth please!

My 'mistress' as you call her, is the Sister of Yahweh, she can call him anything she wants, but in this case I called him like this.

And yes, Yahweh is a leader of the Seven.
And yes, Yahweh was a god of war and storm here on Earth, that is what HUMANS made of him, priests, religions.
And yes, almost every war in the past 2000 years was for a religious reason, in His name.
'God is love, and I burn anybody who denies Him' said by an inquisitor in Spain once.

So think for yourself if he is a god of war, or that humans made that up to extend their power, as I said many times before already, but it seems you fail to understand to see the difference between what human history made of him, and what he really is.
Yahweh/God represents love and peace, not war, it is for that reason that humanity is put for a choice, to live in love and peace, in harmony with nature, or keep on living like they do now and destroy themselves, no God needed for that, they are very well able to do that by themselves at the moment.
Sometimes you need to make a hard descision, if you want to save someones life, it might be needed to cut off a leg.
Even the most loving and caring doctor can tell you that.

About names:
Let me try to give you another little ethymological course:
'God' is a modern version of the old Germanic word Ghu-tó-m which means something as 'to invoke' or 'to call' and was used to describe the old gods in Northern Europe, who you can call to get something done, like a good harvest.
Later it was used to translate the Greek word 'Theos' in the Bible to English, as description for the Christian God, 'whose name should not be mentioned and for this is called just God'.
As he is supposed to be the only one, a name is not important anyway (also the name thing).
Hence, 'God' is not a name, it is a title.
Jesus is His son, not God himself, the same as that the Holy Spirit is not God.
They form a trinity and rule as one collective.
But also lets not discuss on this as it depends of your religious background on how you see this, if you are happy with your current image of God, it is ok with me.

'El' is a word that means 'lord' as in a respectful way to call/mention someone higher as you, think of 'mylord' or 'sire' in English.
So also a title or description, not a name.
Even Yahweh is a description, Like Micha'el, Rapha'el, Orifi'el are, actually every name is a description, it represents a hearable or readable version of an image in your mind, you call your mother 'Mother' but she also has a name, for both you will see the same image in your mind, but your neighbor will see another image when he thinks of 'mother'.
Once you learn how to communicate in your brain you wil no longer use verbal names.

"if you were just an instrument, you would not be able to communicate, speak, think, have conciseness.. but just an object to use when its needed."
You should not see the word 'instrument' as a 'screwdriver', but as a 'means to make something happen'.
I am an instrument from my creator to fulfill a task, the same as Angels are an instrument created by God to fulfill a task.
Just like a Navy Seal can be an instrument for a president to kill someone.
I was created, I fulfill my task, and when finished I will be assigned another task, or disappear, that is my purpose, just like an angels purpose.
They get created when needed, and disappear when finished, or get reassigned.

About your 'bizarre' dreams:
I guess your spirit remembers previous lives and shows parts of them sometimes.

"As for the naming thing you wrote down, saws that you do have a name.. is it.. "
Yes, I have a 'name', it is just that you cannot hear or say it, that is why you can call me Areo, you can hear that.
I once tried to tell my name to my channel, but he only sees an image and feels a certain sensation, but cannot use it to call me when he tries to repeat it, he is also not yet able to use my real name.

"I am a human who uses the nick name orifiel, if that due.. in the other hand, I dont think I am posessed or something, if that is what you mean. lol"

I meant that you say you are Orifiel, but you ar actually another person just using a name of an angel as Nickname, hence you are not who you say you are.
This because you asked if I were Areo.
Well, I am Areo.
I use a human being to channel my words and thoughts, he is called different.
When he speaks here he tells this first, to prevent misunderstandings.

I don’t put words in your mouth areo, it is the result of what you have told me till now. Simple mathematics.

Religion wars are made to serve human interests and only.

He didn’t asked (god) wars in his name, so humans can serve their political and theological ranks.. "So the spice must flow" I love that movie.. I hope you get the point.

Humans do all this and responsible for their actions, at least YOU as an angel you should know that and here is a matter to speak about, as your knowledge as an angel is based in misstranslations and bizzare relligions, not the ancient knowldedge.

Christianity came into Hellas almost 2-3 centuries after Jesus died. Genesis is written thousands years before that. So there is no reason for you and for all, to mistranslate it or misjudge it too. There is a reason why they wrote that.

Dark Christianity age is created by those who wanted a church combined with policians and wealth, to have the world under their control.. Thats why they killed even millions of Christians too!! Because they supported all the evangelions (peters, Magdalene, etc) and because this books say the opposite!! You dont need rocks to find me, you dont need priests to hear me.. we are the church (humans).. Every individual body in this world is a church..

Even that I AM a christian, I study or BEAUTIFUL UNIQUE philosophy and after that, I study Jesus life and new testament and christianity is born from the day that jesus born, not before that. In Hellas is not jesus.. is Christos and that continues to Christianity..Or differently his name was Ihsus (double e.. Giota and Ita, got it?? The reason they call him Jesus, is to serve jewish interests and only.. There is not even actual proofs that jesus was jewish, anyway... Even that I am a christian, I do believe that church hided the true meaning of Christianity..

You should know these things as an angel and here is how the doubts are born.. And are you judging me..?

""Lets stop discussing about nephilim and Elohim as you and I differ on the meaning of similar sounding words in different languages and cultures.

As for the ancient monotheistic humans, there can not be more as one God, they had to find another way to describe these powerful creatures, so they called them Angel, Demon, or even Elohim."

Why we should stop talking about the originallity of the words? Are you afraid? to reveal the corruption from the greek teachings and books? and copyrights? are you kiding me? Then what we should talk about.. that the original authors are lying? Or this is culture for you.. to mistranslate truths.

I totally disagree with that, because you dont use other words, but identical but with your own meaning and why?.. Confuse others? Its not different cultures if you use the same words, books, etc.. and present it as the opposite meaning, thats blasphemy!!.. Thats a lie then (in general meaning of the originality of this word).. I speak in generall and for all, because many things are mistranslations and lies!

Then nobody should use genesis and ANY other books that cannot understand OR is covering up truths by translating differently for their own interests..thats how new religions are born.

Meaning that you must learn greek to read greek books, you should learn jewish to read jewish books, indians, chineese, etc..

Deception is all over us.. not a cultural thing.

so Elochims originally are the fallen angels who later become demons, some elochims left and fled, some of them shield under.. If some people, religions, want consider the fallens (as the original word) as gods.. its their concern and their problem.. but the meaning of the word, cannot be changed to deceive other people. it is shielded thousand years ago.. And you cannot change it.. except.. if you say.. I obey and believe in the fallen angels and demons.. then I will axcept it as a truth for u.. (not for me).. but lying.. is a bad bad thing.

what people do, is totally unaxceptable.. they destroy the truths for their interests.. they destroy hummanity.

Other cultures as you say.. should call it differently.. not the original Hellenic words..

You accuse me of blasphemy?
if you mean that I challence the words in the bible, written and re-written hundreds and thousands of years after the events happened, and translated just as many times as there are languages.
Each version hand written and copied.
Each with a different meaning of words, an explanation/interpretation of the translator, or clerics.
Then yes, you are right.
But even you do the same, you do not believe the Hebrew version, only yours, while it is the same story, just told different.
People have not even an idea how to say the name of God, so they made Yahweh or Jehovah of it because that fitted with the names of other regional gods.

So how can you be sure your books are the truth and mine not?
Because 'someone' told you so?

We can talk days about what is the proper meaning of a word or name, you have your opinion, I have mine, both think apparently that what they say is the truth, so what is the use to discuss if none wants to accept the other truth as his truth?
I say Elohim means this, you say they are that.
What Rael says is his opinion, a third one.
Same with Nephilim.

We can keep saying yes/no for years this way, I think we have more useful things to do?
Soon all will know the truth anyway.

Now I challenge you:

What if I am who I say I am?
(Again and again, I am no angel, I also do not call you Italian, right? So call me Areo, or Protector, but not angel).
What if what I say is the truth, and what you say is not?

Your version of the truth can also be different from what really happened, do not be so self assured that you are the only one who knows what really goes on, as all of the books that gave you your knwledge were not written during the events but much later.
Genesis was not written when it happened, it was also written many thousands of years later, from collected told and written stories.
I tell you what I know about the events in the past, like I can tell you what happened yesterday as well, because I was there, not at creation, but when the first humans came here, I will also be here when the last ones leave.
You can believe that, or not.

What if God comes down to earth tomorrow, and tells you exactly the same as I do, will you tell Him He lies, because his story does not fit in your world?
Will you even believe he is God?
Will you dare to challenge your Gods on this?
maybe you should read this:
http://www.abctales.com/story/areo/conversation
It may have happened

What if your angel Michael tells you the same, wil you accuse him of blasphemy as well?
Or Zeus?
So why do that with me? You do not know anything about me.
Maybe I am a Protector telling you this, maybe someone with a vivid imagination, you do not know, do you?

I tell you that there is a truth, somewhere in the past, and there is a truth today, and they differ.
I know what I know, many parts I witnessed myself, I remember them like it was yesterday.
I tell you that the current books tell mixed up stories about real events, mixed up, changed, malformed, romantised, colored, some good to read, some ugly.

Modern Example: look at the state tv of Libya, then CNN, and then Al-yazeera, three stories of the same events, but totally different.
Which is the truth?
For the believers only their version is the truth, the others are propaganda, lies.
The winner will make his story the truth, and that is what will be in the history books of the future in that country.
There is only one way to find out: go there and witness it yourself.
Then you know, and can challenge the books later.
Like I did.

If you cannot do that, then listen to all with open mind and make your own choice.

And I know that humans are always responsible for their own actions, and they will be held responsible as well, in the end.
Even if they tell their Gods told them to do so, they have their own will, and can say 'no'.

I speak about the original texts and not the re-written versions, so if you need to find out what elochims mean, visit greece or israel and purchase one.

But its good to visit a reliable ravine (jewish) or a monastery to give you the translated texts with the command of Ptolemeus. (Cleopatras father). The scripts of Beresyth or Genesis, dont ask just any bible..

If some want to believe in the demons and the fallen, feel free to, but the original texts and meanings of the words, cannot be changed I am afraid.

Trust me, I dont think my beloved angel, would try to convince me, or anyone for his beliefs and choices, dont forget that free will and research is given to us by god.. And preaching is not a job for an angel to do..

Giving me examples of global tv news, compared with the texts of Genesis - Beresyth, is a joke even thinking about it.. lol My choices are allready taken long ago. I am not here to research and change my beliefs, I have told that several times.

Just trying to asnwer to this :

""" Modern Example: look at the state tv of Libya, then CNN, and then Al-yazeera, three stories of the same events, but totally different.
Which is the truth?
For the believers only their version is the truth, the others are propaganda, lies.
The winner will make his story the truth, and that is what will be in the history books of the future in that country.
There is only one way to find out: go there and witness it yourself.
Then you know, and can challenge the books later.
Like I did.

If you cannot do that, then listen to all with open mind and make your own choice.

The version of Genesis and Beresyth are identical, 72 ravines and priests translated it in the command of Ptolemeus, its not our fault that they use the name genesis instead of Beresyth, today days, its the same thing after all..

bible the way we know it today, for me is a crappy book the ones you can find in the west.. you have more than 1000000 different bibles and thats the jewish problem to deal with, except if they like it.. lol I dont care. Its a good advertisement after all..

The rest of your text cannot be answered.. Because I don’t find any specific reason to do so.. you speak about winners and losers, but u miss the originality and truth. You can read Isiodos, Omiros, platon, aristotelis and find similar stories thousand years older..

btw, its the celebration of my beloved angel's name in a couple of days.. I am so happy for it..

"72 ravines and priests translated it in the command of Ptolemeus"
That is exactly what I meant.
I suppose he had to approve for the translation?
So priests translated it, those in charge of a religion that worships and uses a god to suit their needs, translated a book that is the base of their religion.
There is no original text, all the text is written after stories told from generation to generation.
Nobody wrote down what Adam and Eve did, nobody could even write in those days.
Still it is in the book.

It is ok, believe what you want, so will I.

I did not say your angel will try to convince you of anything.
I just said 'What if' he would do that, do not deny a hypothesis.
Just answer the question.

Oh please give me a break.. take an older story as an example that is a bit OLDER than the jewish version.

I hope this story will entertain you.. its one of our many, different perspectives and myths for what happened..

Ok let me give you a small brifing about the elohim in the greek mythology.

In the beginning god created the Eloxim and after that the angels.. that means eloxim are older than angelic entities. Also the elohims where material entities but angels are ethereal entities. There is many meanings about the word ELOXHM it means angels, it means the children of god and also means enlighten humans.

Eloxims have bodies and can reproduce and angels have no gender and cannot mate each other or have sex in general. Eloxims also are higher entities than angels.

There is many tagmas for eloxims and these are “ EL San, EL Tere, EL Tan, EL GaN, EL Nir, EL Lan, EL Nor, EL, Lin, etc..

Eloxims was the reason that humans created but by the order of god.. to create humans in the image of the first Eloxim.. Angels got jelous because if eloxims are higher entities than angels and humans the same image as eloxims, that means angels would be third in the line.

Then Samael rioted and took with him all his legion against god… Some eloxim cooperated with satan and the story of adam and eve came up.. the fall of the humans..

YAH / EL gave order to 201 elohim to look after humans while they progress.. in this period eloxims mated with humans and they created Nephelims there is also many genrs of nephelims, such us, the generation of Narudix (goat faces), Balax (legs and head of a goat), Rebax (centurions), Kaxrex (minotaurus), Dusbex (Cyclops), Lotsbex (human body and reptilian head), Laxmex (tiger body and bird face), kasnax (human body and snake face), many many others.. 16-17 overal generations.

One of the nephelims was zeus and his powers was nearly the powers of an original Eloxim,

so Kronos the father of zeus, ruled the nephelims make them believe that humans are just for their appetites and for fun..

And Zeus created the second camp that neutralized most of the nephelims and gave rights and freedom to the human race. Zeus setup his base camp in Olympus, and soon after a war came with Atlantis.. Atlantis didn’t ruled by the 12 gods of Olympus (nephelims but with justice ego inside them) but Atlantis ruled by ungry and maniac nephelims. So zeus won the battle and shield the maniac nephelims under the earth.

Only 1900 nephelims fled away from the earth. Zeus rulled for about 1000 years and and then YAH gave order to Zeus to abandon earth and a gate open with the help of Great Alexandre (he opened the gate because he was a key person). And closed it after.

I hope this story will entertain you.. its one of our many, different perspectives and myths for what happened..

This is not genesis and bible.. this is a bit older.

the story about zeus being a nephelim maybe true, the story of the creation says that Uranos mated with earth..

that means.. son of god with an earth material (human)..

the story about great alexander is also true.. as if you make research about how great alexander won all this battles.. he won with uranus shields.. what that means??

Kronos was a bad eloxim.. but you english Kronos for you is Jupiter.. lol

Thats the diferense between us and jewish.. we were under the protection and the area that ZEUS was based.. but jewish had some bad nepehelims next to them.. lol

A last comment.. Zeus was a Kronian Nephelim. Kronian generation nephelims were the ones who looked in the same image as original Eloxims..

Thats why URANUS and kronos after, had obsesion of making many kids!! because most of them were monsters!! and they wanted to be the same as they look like!! capito?? And thats greek... haa..hahahahaha

thats why egypt has lots of wolf head humans and snake humas... in greece we have the lion body and bird head nephelims also lots of cronians and gorgons and cyclops.. and minotaurs..

I could also give you all the details we have from our ancients, about the portals, the gates.. were are they.. and stuff like that.. because zeus, gave us everything.

we know. And your obsesion Areo against our beloved zeus and his son, is totally unacceptable for us..

here is the story from the ancient Palestine Mesopotamia, about Istar.

Her name is saved through Sumerian and Babylonia civilizations and they say, before the cataclysmic event, all gods and goddess agreed about the cataclysm.. Istar included in this decision.

But when she saw the catastrophe in the world, she regretted for what she voted, she tried with no result to convince the other gods to stop the catastrophe but it was already to late. After that she made a promise with the creation of an amulet made by a material called Lazouritis that his will never happen again in the world.

She didnt left then, the story continues much further when she saw a hero in the earth doing incredible things called Gilgames and she appeared in front of him and asked him to be together, get married. She also promised him wealth and fortunes and golds and diamonds and all this stuff.. Whatever he wanted..

But gilgames knew that Isthar is not that innocent as she looks because she have the name and rumor in her that she is the goddess of love and war and he refused her offerings. She was very egoistic goddess.

Then ISTHAR run to her father Anou and deceived him by saying that Gilgames insulted her very rudely, Anu declined her desire to take revenge and she threten the god of the skys that if he wont punish Gilgames about his behavior, she will create HUGE disasters in Mesopotamia (how innocent of her)..

Then Anu created a bull nephelim fall from the sky and started to kill people.. Gilgames with his friend Andiktu tried to save the people by killing the bull, as they did..!

Then isthar with her maniac feelings about Gilgames, love and hate at the same time she started to scream and course Gilgames.. Anou called an emergency call of the gods to speak about Isthar and Gilgames and find a solution between them..

Isthar declined the invitation and only EA Enlil and Samas heard the call.

The decision taken between the gods, was Ediktu should die and Gilgames felt desperate watching his friend dying by a horrible way (disease). He tried with prays to save him but nobody listened.

the story is huge..

but is she really left for her compassion for the world?

or because she destroyed her only love she ever had and she couldn’t feel or get because of her actions..

I dont find that innocent your goddess areo.. Or at least, she is not an exception at all, she is even more stubborn that EL you rudely call warlord..

she almost created 2nd catastrophe because of a man!!

the today behavior of woman’s who become murderers, because of their passion and love, it is a silent killer.. is it.. Today womans mostly become murderers for their passion and their beauty, but depends their childhood.. Their fathers..

Isthar, tried to be the little girl for her father, using him for her own interests.. Even though she showed big compassion about the cataclysmic event but she has very disturbed personality.. she can become evil and good at the same quantities and size.. She didn’t left because of EL, she left because her only love declined her and he died at the end. Her obsession about it.

this story is from the Babylonians so its not a story I created... lol dont say that I am accusing her.. and we accept all the historic event and let her out of it.. she was a part of the story after all..

I know this story, terrible isn't it, what love cannot do to someone.
But it reflects a strong love, you have to admit that

I also know the story where her brother/husband was killed by their other brother, cut to pieces and divided over Egypt.
She even went the underworld to get him back to life, died for him to go there and came back to make him live again.

That were just two of the stories, it was never said she was sweet and innocent, like all ancient Gods were also not sweet and innocent.
Name me one God who never killed or had anybody killed in his name.

What I think speaks in favor of her is this:
"But when she saw the catastrophe in the world, she regretted for what she voted, she tried with no result to convince the other gods to stop the catastrophe but it was already to late. After that she made a promise with the creation of an amulet made by a material called Lazouritis that his will never happen again in the world"

I know she will keep that promise, that is why we are here, and did not leave with her.

For me Kronos is Kronos, not Jupiter, that is what the Romans made of him.

I have nothing against Zeus, I think you misunderstood something from my words.
I said that those who call Zeus and Ares with Mythodea think they will get help from them in a fight to get power.
Not sure if vangelis knows the plan in the background, he wrote a stunningly beautiful piece of music, if something can get Zeus here, it will be this.
But they will be surprised, as they will not get what they expect, this will be good for the world, but bad for those who want to take over power.
Vangelis will get what he expects, but those who asked him to make the music not.

I respect Zeus and his pantheon above anything.
They are my Lady's leaders.
So how could I be against them?

Something else:
I have just been listening to Mythodea movement 1 to 11, Impressive and very interesting I must say.
Unfortunately I could not find the English translation for movement 8 and 11.

Orifiel
Maybe you get more trust in Areo if you look up the other meaning of her name.

She is a soldier, like me.
We are here to fight for our lady Ishtar if needed.
If Mythodea is successful, and succeeds in calling her brothers and sisters, we will be on their side.
Unconditionally.

And with us a lot of people from Earth, who already know what is going on.
We will fight for the good of the world, and the Twelve/Seven.

But then, you have to take our word on it.

^E^

Yes the ancient greek names we have in planets and gods are SOOOO magical.. u feel it in your bones.. for example Kronos.. something very wild and demanding.. Aphrodite so erotic.. The letters are so beautiful.. anyway enough with my likes.

Gain power? no.. we will not let them do that, they will get informed about everything IF they ever come..

I mean, We will never allow the today high powers to deceive even the nephelims.. But I don’t think there is a reason to worry about..

Those who called them have nothing to do with politics, even though 20 almost, of the "elites" who joined the secret transmission (because people know 2 and actually they are 3 shows).. 2 for general public and 1 very privet. With 1 years difference, if I remember well. Anyway, these 20 almost were politicians.. And I didn’t like that at all.. I call them all (Uno fatsa Uno ratsa)..

I new names but I forgot them already, because I am bad with the names.. I love number most.

In the other hand about Isthar, I truly understand how she felt and the way she acted, because many of the characteristics to the way she acted, I got them too in my character.. I understand her (not completely).. but I don’t trust me to ever be a god after all.. lol *and even if I want to, I never harm others.. I don’t know, maybe my dna, that’s the only difference..

Anyway.. Zeus left the earth at the age of Mega Aleksandro, if you read his story, you easily detect that he was a key person and he had a short of help to achieve his athlons.. At the same time he was the one who shielded all the nephelims, etc except 1900 ones who fled.

Thats what nibiru speaks about, but I don’t believe it much.. And we don’t have it in our history much, just a characterizations (judgment planet and nothing more than that)..

as for fight, fight what? Demons? Bad Nephelims and some elochims? Oh dear.. I wonder, in my mind I recall it more like the return of true civilization values and progress and upgrade of human race, truth as we need it so much!! We live in a lie.. More like that, less than a fight, except if the other ones want a fight..

We Greeks are defending people and not warmasters and aggressive.. But we kick $## if they dare.. lol (am not sure about today, that’s why we need our zeus back). Zeus loved human race..

"as for fight, fight what? Demons? Bad Nephelims and some elochims? Oh dear.. I wonder, in my mind I recall it more like the return of true civilization values and progress and upgrade of human race, truth as we need it so much!! We live in a lie.. More like that, less than a fight, except if the other ones want a fight.."

I think you understood.
Maybe even more as you think.

The upgrade already started

^E^

something you wrote about mythodia translantion.. its a bit hard, meaning its not greek, but ancient greek.

For axample in a point says : Esy Paidi, Ela edw.

doesnt mean you kid, come here.. it has a deeper meaning.. so its hard to translate just the words, except if you have ancient greek knowledge..

I will listen to it and try give you a temp translation

and how the ancient greek comes up? ofcourse with the voices!!! a small example.. the female covals say : DIIIII and at the same time, the male vocals say: Deomeni Apondes DIH (so we have DI-Deomeni-Apondes-DIH.. That means the vocals is not like the songs we know today.. one voice continues the other one.. it is different words.. and this phrase is a call for zeus..indeed, in ancient greek..

also if you remember what i said once.. Ancient greek is maths and music too.. so what about the music!! hahaha its more complicate that you think.

dont trust translations.. Its even hard for greeks, I wish I could give you more information..

its easies to put foreign good singers and greeks saying just a letter or a word and all together, they create a text..

I got the translation here:
http://www.youtube.com/user/VangelisMythodea?blend=11&ob=5#p/a/A477760F2...
I think it looks pretty official?

I found the translation for movement 8 now, but 11 not yet.

Oh dear, does not look oficial to me....

he is 27 year old and he is not Greek. Even though I get this message and i am not that interested to read foreign translations..

it says "MYTHODEA MOVEMENT 1 WITH LYRICS + ENGLISH SUBTITLES"

The following content has been identified by the YouTube community as being potentially offensive or inappropriate. Viewer discretion is advised. Please confirm that you wish to view this video.

This video is unavailable.
This video contains content from SME, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.""

So as I said, DO NOT trust translations especially foreign translations.. You live in US? Only US does that, meaning in EU we dont have restricton between us on youtube.

lol

You can type down 1 movement for example, so I can check it from greek prophessors who did translation and tell you if its correct..

here is a video and the boy there types down exactly what you hear.. Its not the best but you can see how it goes.. its a greek upload (not oficial)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xLrWpLAPqM&feature=related

Ok AREO this is movement 2 but almost the half movement.. its not even the half..

enjoy.

" I will give you movement 2 but not from officials.. I preffer the underground after all.. (I translate it in English).

O (with omega) Zeys one (unique) god,
Oh Zeys one (unique) god who exist,
Our own god, one (unique).
Greatest.

One (unique) Zeys,
one (unique) Zeys my god.
One (unique) Zeys,
one (unique) contributor of ef’zhn (makara ZHNA),

endless.

Ellina (hellina).
Is this tired you?
Oh Zeys,
is this tired you?
In the path (road) you come.
The first of the first.
Unique god,
Unique Zeys my god.
Sometimes he is in the path and travels,
he comes here to see the light."

I am not going to give deeper meanings, just what you hear..

Edit: I forgot to say that THERE IS NO oficial translation Areo.. Vagellis and NASA, deny the existanse of a text inside the vocals.. hehehe

and more surprises just to saw you that there is no coincidences in this song.. in the beginning you hear in english.. 1-2-3, 1-2-3, 1-2-3, 1-2-3 = 12

This is Areo's channel:
Even I can recognize the Greek words when I follow the subtitles, not sure why they deny there are no words.

Somehow I feel movement 7, 8 and 9 are important.
I think Areo 'smiled' when I played it, well it felt like it.

I heard one sentence:
'She is already there'

I like this part on Youtube:
Vangelis' Mythodea with Greek (and English) subtitles of the probable lyrics.

here is movement 1 whole of it.. I translated it.. hehe .. I cant help with other movements as am not that good with translations and not risking for it..

Movement 1 (whole)
One, two, three (x4)
Zeys come (10x)
You my child come, you must
You my child (x7)
Come.
Zeys love
Zeys I am asking from you to come,
Zeys my god
You my child,
You are inside us,
You my child
One living God,
I am asking your mother too my god
That she will come only through Zeys
My child Zeys, my child you must
We love you my lord Zeys
Zeys come with your mother
ZEYSSSSSSSSSS ZEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEYS ZEEEEEEEEEEEEEYS…
YOU MUST
Happyly we give our self’s to you,
In a great love, in a great love and happy .

Well you have to admit it areo, our language is really hard even to understand after translation.. harder than the pyramids.. lol

Its the weapon we have.. because the language it self is a weapon.. :)

This is Areo's channel

I can read and understand most of it, the problem is that a prayer on music is always difficult to read.

And if the sense (the story/meaning) behind a movement is not clear it makes it even more complicated.
A literal translation like on Youtube and yours is incomplete, it skips the meaning of the text.

And if the writer tells that there are no words, he will also not explain what they mean. :-/

It is interesting, I will try to find a text explanation.

i told you, it is incomplete, you must know fluently greek and ancient greek, also learn symbolisms and see the whole show.. for example the images they played in specific spots of the track.

Also there is plenty of noumerology that means means things Even If I knew, I wouldnt help you or anybody.. because there is a reason why it looks the way it is..

Allies or not, some things only Zeys him self should tell you.. not me.. there is only 1 rule in this days, do not trust anybody.. We dont trust our goverment, what about people I speak on the net..lol

did you knew that our government brought a law in greece without national vote system, that makes us all liver, heart, etc organs givers for free, after we die, so they can sell them out!!! they sold us out!!! without family approval. The only thing I care about is, trying to be alive and see them all.. Thats what I want to, because if the people dont do nothing, soon they will bring laws to kill us and sell our parts... a bit faster

a last thing about mythodea and prophecies, if we take this song and scripts for granted, then yes, a war is coming and is gonna be so big, that nothing is written in any scripts that we own today..

You will be seeing things you would never imagine.

its a mystery on its own isnt it.. I mean...

Nasa came and they send song to the 12 gods but they claim it is just vocals and images.. If they claim that, then what we say today, is a conspiracy theory.

Either ways.. Even a 2 year old greek child can recognize the words.. DIA ELA and stuff like that.. No doubts why Nasa and greece are doomed today hahahahahahaha.. but its ok.. gods will thank them if they come.

I love it.. its a conspiracy theory on its own level..

Did you knew that many Nasa employees coming here to live after their retirement, at least I knew 2 in the past years...(?) They love the country, we thank them.

that also means in a conspiracy theory level, that nasa knows something.. at least for the other side.. is it..

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