Things you always liked about bad music but were too afraid to mention

*Dresses Sabelle Doll in Spurs kit, with sicknotes name on the back* *wonders about the wisdom of Sabelle's last statement*

Lets bear in mind that most of my friends like S Club 7... I'm not sure I can excuse Aqua though

Oh Neil, please don't ruin your usual intelligent and worthwhile constributions with a comment in the style of, "Rap music? That's not even singing! It's just talking!" You sound like my dad! :-) A rapper is a musician, in the same way as a singer is a musician. Rappers and singers both use their voices as instruments: the singer in a melodic way, the rapper in a percussive way. If you think there's nothing to rapping, no skill, just give it a go. I can belt out a song on karaoke with the best of em (albeit slightly off key), but the hardest thing I ever had to do was an Eminem song on karaoke (I went to a pop star fancy dress party, and we all had to do a "Stars in their Eyes" turn). It took days and days of practice before it sounded even quarterway respectable. Rapping well is a hell of a lot harder than singing well. Now get with the program, grandad!

Anyone who says he/she doesn't like rap can't have heard MC Solaar! The guy is a genius and I cannot praise him highly enough.

"Where have all the cowboy's gone?" Stamford Bridge. But music is music. I don't even know half the people you lot talk about, but that's your choice in music. I like rap, reggae, soul, jazz & many different forms of music. I don't like Eminem cos I think he's a prat. Some of his music is good tho. Vive la difference

Okay, its my turn. I quite like some of the modern day crooners like Wet Wet Wet, but at my age im not really supposed to.

I have a soft spot for stuff that RAWKS! I am absolutely committed, on the sly to the like of Andrew WK, The Darkness etc. But also stuff like Jesse's Girl by Rick Springfield, Jump by Van Halen and even Boys of Summer by Don Henely. Apparantly, somewhere in my mind I am driving an open topped car down a palm tree'd boulevard, sniffing coke from the bronzed leg of a woman in gigantic glasses.

if it was an open-topped car wouldn't the coke like blow away? I really liked the Stranglers, which is deeply uncool. So don't tell anybody.

What is bad music? Stuff you don't like? Stuff I don't like? Stuff that (heaven forbid) Stutwerp doesn't like? Everything that ever sold had a market and presumably was considered listenable.

Yes, but there is music that anyone with any vague musical intelligence has to like to some extent, even if it's only cause it influenced loads of great music that came after (Beach Boys, Beatles, Velvet Underground, David Bowie, Pistols, Roses, Mondays) - then there's music that influenced f**k all, everyone now hates, and is recognised as having been light background music for passionless musically-retarded insurance-brokers' dinner parties (like Dire Straits).

(And Robert Palmer)

BTW, the only embarrassing music I love is the music of Andrew Lloyd Webber, esp. JC Superstar and Evita. I'm not gay. I'm really not.

You forgot about ABBA! Oh, what horrors they unleashed! (Though, I do like ABBA ... I just hate all this other Euro-pop.)

JC Superstar and Godspell, are brilliant. But I think its because I was forced to listen in my youth, to my parents 8 track. Mum also managed to ram roxy music, marc bolan and david bowie into my brain tho' i managed to avoid dad's ELO, Moody Blues and dodgy status quo moments. I still have a fondness for Nazareth's "Love Hurts" though. Keep it hush.

Oh boy. Did you see the Who at the Albert Hall on telly last night? Christ, it was like watching an autopsy. A big room full of sad old men watching a gang of sad old men on stage make fools of themselves. And they trooped on a whole load of special guests including Nigel Kennedy and Bryan Adams. Noel Gallagher and Eddie Vedder turned up too which was dissapointing because I love those two and I thought they were demeaning themselves sitting in with that gang of no-marks. I wonder how many celebs would have agreed to appear if the gig had taken place after Townshend had been revealed as a greasy paedo.

Stu - how very News of the World of you! I don't think Townsend was revealed as a greasy paedo . . .

Well he's been placed of the National Sex Offenders Register for buying child pornography off of the internet. So he's a greasy paedo.

I used to like B.A Robertson and Adam and the Ants, how mad is that........i'm impotent......what did i say that for it's not even true.

Adam and the Ants kick ass. Adam was beautiful. Notice the WAS. i'm quite embarrassed that i used to like Madonna and Prince (yeuch). wouldn't touch em with a barge pole now (another funny saying...to be added to the other thread)

Adam and the Ants were brilliant. I was just thinking about that burundi beat this morning... really good. Man, Im unburdening myself today, make no mistake.

Unplug the jukebox and do us all a favour that music's lost it's taste so try another flavour Antmusicicicic. They don't write em like that anymore.

Prince, Michael Jackson, Madonna may be considered tacky now but they are proper pop stars. Bowie, the Velvets and the Roses equally fab but in no way superior just because they're more hip. All pop music is shallow and ephemeral and should be enjoyed as such. The distinction between good and bad is just pretentious.

Theres nothing wrong in being gay, Greco.

wOAH tHere! All pop music is very far from shallow dearie. Pop music is the single most important art form that has ever been created. In terms of communication nothing comes close. Don't get mixed up with 'serious' and 'popular'. Garath Gates (for example) has far more cultural impact than, say, Will Self and Martin Amis put together.

Hmmmmh! Who is this mysterious Slim Sadie?

I have Aerosmith's "Pump" CD in my car. Does that count?

The only influence the sex pistols exerted was to show everyone else how NOT to play instruments. Oh and they showed the world how to get drugged up and murder your bitch. Perhaps that's where dicko acquired his predilection for mind-altering substances, though god knows it needs altering.

I DID use to like Marc Bolan. At school they called him Nolab Cram for some reason. Never worked it out. Oh and Bowie of course, and, bet you dont remember them: Mott The Hoople. Then I went threough a phase of loving Cat Stevens. I still think his 'Rubylove' is one of the happiest, nicest songs ever. When i get fed up with Blair et al, Parliament generally and all the other quasi human flotsam anf jetsam we're forced to share the planet with, I put on Rubylove and it cheers me up. But thats just me.

('Course it's all before my "time") but the Sex Pistols strike me as a band who went on some sort of quest to take the pretentiousness out of rock ... setting images of Emmerson, Lake, and Palmer on fire on stage, or something or other ... while they were one of the most calculated, phony, and commercial bands to come out of that era! I've listened to 'Bollocks' and that doesn't particularly strike me as a great album. So, perhaps the credit that went to the Pistols ought to go to the Ramones. They're the ones that started the punk era, aren't they? Prince, Michael Jackson, and Madonna were all probably overrated. I don't really like either of them, but they did create some flickers of joy! I like Marc Bolan. What's wrong with him?

i do too like mott the hoople - his version of all the young dudes is top...

Yep, me too, L. And I love (most of) Eminem, as well. At my age, too *sigh*. Listening to 'Lose Yourself' as we speak. There's no hope...

oh andrea darling - eminem is first against my wall.

I hope you're talking firing squads here and not something else Liana. *Shudders*

*loads gun acquired from Tony Martin*

Stop putting sneaky replies on other threads Sabi, you know i don't do that sort of thing. *whistles innocently*

I think, Missi, you're talking specifically about Sid Viscious. He couldn't play, and was a useless good for nothing drug addict, and he murdered his wife. For what it's worth, I don't buy in to his iconic status. He was a nob. The others COULD play, wrote songs generations after them would love, simple, melodic, rebellious, genius. Influenced The Prodigy, The Smiths, Oasis, and thousands of great bands. And Sid wasn't even there in the beginning; he was an afterthought. Now go to a thread you understand, and leave us kids to it.

The others COULDN'T play diddly squat, but then you wouldn't know would you? Genius! hahahahahahaha I think you must have been an afterthought actually.

Sorry Flash. I don't want to hurt your feelings!!! *she lies so well*

Thats ok. I believe you. *sticks pins in Sabelle Doll*

when I first heard that Bryan Adams thing EVerything I Do or whatever it is called I hated it and hated the British public for buying it in their millions. Every week you tuned in to Top of the Pops there it was dragging on and on, all dreary and mundane and with banal lyrics to boot. Then about two years ago i heard it again as if for the first time and absolutely fell in love with it to the point where I now regard it as the most glorious, moving, emotional song to have come out of the 90s. And yet part of me knows it is dreary and mundane with banal lyrics to boot, and it isn't that cool to like it. what's wrong with me?

*doesnt know where to even begin*

I like Paula Cole's "Where have all the cowboy's gone?" Is there something wrong with me.

I'm finding I like all kinds of things with catchy tunes and good videos - Madonna is an obvious example - which I would once have scorned. I even think the Sex Pistols are good after a fashion, after seeing stupid rap "artists" and boy/girl bands who don't even pretend to be musicians. But if you ever catch me listening to country + western of my own volition please shoot me on the spot.

Wondered why I was getting aches and pains. Would get Flashy doll but, those tights are so off-putting. He's obviously got a large brain! looks for Northampton Town programme. I'm sure there was a caped crusader in the crowd.

My friends all point and laugh at me coz I like Joy Division. I don't know what's so wrong with that. I also like Aqua...

Sticks and stones, *Dresses Sabelle Doll in Chelsea kit*

laugh at you cos you like Joy Division, the pillocks.

You're going too far now. *Gets machete out of garage & hacks Flash doll to pieces, using tomato ketcup for special fx*