Dress codes

clothes , don't talk to me about clothes - brain the size of a planet and all they want to talk about is dress codes...

I don't really have an aversion to dress codes. I have a pathological hatred of baseball caps and think that no restaurant should serve anyone wearing one. In fact, if you are not American or under eight, you should be shot for wearing a baseball cap. No jeans is a bit simplistic (you don't have to look scruffy in jeans), but if it is a nice restaurant, rather than a bar that sells food, I'd expect to dress up for it. And I'd expect my partner to make an effort if I was taking her out for an anniversary meal, and I'd do the same. But then, I am a clothes junkie. You're right about nightclubs though, Paul - it is much easier for a terrace casual to get into a club than a student, and it is the former who are the undesirables who ought to be kept out.

Hi Im going to Liverpool on Friday 15th with the girls for the weekend. I have just been informed you are not allowed to wear denim into any clubs in Liverpool!! Is this true i only wear denim when i go out not scruffy but nice figure jeans river island type and all that. Please say the rumour isnt true. Dress codes are brutal in Dublin you can wear what you like except runners/Trainers into clubs. Thanks

it's true I'm afraid, it's track suits only in Liverpool.

Lets see...hates.. Baseball hats. Mushrooms. Two wonderful little things in life. You're weird Andrew.

I love mushrooms, but I'm with him on the baseball hat I'm afraid. If we ban anyone over 8 from wearing a baseball hat, can we ban anyone over an English size 14 (american 18 i think) from wearing tight fitting jeans too please? In fact, lets make it law that they cant be manufactured. Its for the good of mankind.

What about cowboy hats? I have a few good ones.

cowboy hats are fine... on cowboys only though.

What to wear with a Punjabi suit: well, look at what Punjabi women wear! They generally wear sandals with bare feet, even in Britain in winter, though that shouldn't be a problem as the weather gets warmer. For a special occasion, maybe some silver or gold sandals or some sparkly slippery things - go round your nearest Asian area and watch the feet, and what's in the shoe shops.

>> ...I have a pathological hatred of baseball caps and think that no restaurant should serve anyone wearing one. In fact, if you are not American or under eight, you should be shot for wearing a baseball cap. ... << I have to own up to being in Andrew's gang on this. They look ok on a baseball player when he's at work, but on most others, especially when worn sideways or back to front, they make me puke. I guess it's partly because they've become the standard headware for yobs. I DO have a confession to make though. I am the owner of two baseball caps (have never worn them). I didn't buy them. They were given to me in Tupelo by Elvis Presleys cousin and are emblazoned with, 'Presley - Sheriff, Lee County, Mississippi'. Yes he was the sheriff there when I visited in 1999. Sadly he was murdered nine months later. I guess the caps will be collectors items at some point.

My friends and I got thrown out of a Camden pub for being 'not goth enough' a few weeks ago. I didn't feel terribly bad at about it, some of us weren't even wearing black.

I like to wear my baseball hat, slightly crooked, to the side of my head and with the bill pointing about 38 degrees off center. My favorite is the one that says. Fuji Penguin.

Oh, and I love to eat raw mushrooms dipped in Ranch dressing.

I almost refuse to go to clubs that have a "no trainers" policy. I say almost because it is a friend's b'day relent!

I've been looking for one with the peak at the back but the ones over here all have the peak at the front. Where do you ge them?

Try cutting it off and sewing it to the other side.

Sorry about my schoolboy errors re: "are" and "where"...I'm writing very quickly at the mo, I'm supposed to be doing a job application.

nah, jeans aren't allowed in some restaurants because the grooves in the material are considered unhealthy. Germy.

I rather like dressing up for a meal, but I'm a girl I suppose. My favourite restaurant ever, wont allow jeans, so my mate martin wont go there, and that pisses me off. Why cant he wear a pair of trousers for one night? I quite like the thought of men and women dressing up to eat... that old fashioned sense of occasion. Given half the chance I'd be in something with a bustle and a train (as long as its not a wedding dress) like a shot. All that old fashioned romance... a pianist in one corner, snowy white napkins and footsie under the table. Lovely. better than a berni inn.

if it's dinner or the theatre( sometimes) then I love velveteen jackets, double cuffed shirts with posh ladies cufflinks...no problems there.. but not clubs...clubs with a no trainers policy are generally full of beer-twats and I like clubs full of pill-wasted neo-hippies hugging each other.

I think the idea behind dress codes was to discourage the yobs, as Paul says, and there may be some sense in that. Jeans however have become very fashionable over the years and can look very nice in my opinion, (I have to say that cos I've rarely worn anything else, work or play, in 45yrs) I do have a suit and 'proper' trousers though, my friends 30th in Leeds a couple of years back was a 'no jeans' affair. I have NEVER owned, nor ever wish to own a pair of trainers though. They may be fine if you're 'training but as everyday footwear i think they look crap. I remember seeing a pic of Paul 'I'm famous me, ya know' McCartney at a premiere wearing a suit and TRAINERS! Christ he looked a right c***. I mean more than he usually does when he's making one of his 'how dare you slag my monopod' rants. The thing is, some guys look great in a suit, but they are usually the tall slim guys. Short tubby tossers like me look shite, whereas we look passable in casual gear.

This is a good point. With clubs, what appears at a first glance to be snobbery is in fact reverse-snobbery: no "studenty" types in here, chavs only. Only a chav would see going to a nightclub as so high up the social ladder to require grooming. But Liana, why can't you dress up (if you like it), and I and your mate wear our jeans? (I don't actually own "pants", other than my work suit pamts, and I'm not f**king wearing them.) Then everyone's happy. Why not? Because the gobshite owner is saying, "Dress how I want you to." Hey wait a minute, I'M the f**king customer, about to contribute towards the payments on your yacht by buying a ridiculously overpriced "creation", YOU dress the way I want YOU to: go on, f**k off, and don't come back till you've changed your crap shirt and your stinking Middle-England attitude! Ooh, that's better.

another instance which is a little irritating is when I have to wear a skirt. Sarongs and saris aside I don't like them, they are uncomfortable, do nothing for my figure and a trouser suit looks nicer. Is there any need for that kind of outdated gender stereo typing? No! And as most people Know I am no a bra-burning feminist by any means whatsoever, so it is unusual of me to whinge on such a matter

and can any of you girls help me on this... My sister is getting married in May. I have a royal blue sequined punjabi suit to wear. Like this but Royal not sky blue what shoes do I wear with it and where do I buy them?

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!! What are you doing to my thread, Jude! Quick, erm, football. Football, eh? What about that 1970 Brazil team?

because i'd feel like a twat all dressed up, when marts in jeans that he's had on for three weeks. its not fair! Youd look like someone who turned up for a blind date with someone you werent paired with. Mart doesnt own any trousers other than jeans either, and to be fair, when i saw a photo of him at a wedding in a borrowed suit, i was emphysemic with laughter.

Gary, you're American, so are exempt from any baseball hat ruling. I don't think less of you for wearing one. In a country with scorching hot sun, it might be advisable to wear a hat to protect from burning and the visor keeps the sun out of the eyes. In England, the wearing of a baseball cap merely serves as an indicator to others that you are a twat of the highest order. As for mushrooms, it is wrong to eat something that grows on toilet walls. This was only a mild taste of my foibles, you should hear me rant about tortoises. (In fact, if you visit my blog "Tortoise Milk" you can read me doing just that.

What's the number of the dress code?

ohhhhhhhh and what Nail polish? he he he he

Oh and by the way it's Gaffa tape.

That looks gorgeous... I reckon you need some delicate mules to wear with that (not the hairy braying type). something maybe toe thonged, with a kitten heel? Why are shoe things named after animals? And royal blue or even a gold sparkly nail polish. Yum.

eek, silver nil varnish, not gold. Just looked at the close up. Fashion faux pas or what.

I love mushrooms but have never eaten a tortoise.

I am currently wearing a BMW F1 racing cap which came free with castrol oil for the car. shoot me...dare ya!

Anybody eating the mushrooms growing from toilet walls deserves what they get. Mushrooms have more than one use btw...

Very funny it cant be that bad

As I'm sure I've already mentioned, I've got a Tilley Hat. It's a bit like a cross between a cowboy hat and an Ozzie safari type hat. The brim, which is wide and shadey, can be stuck up at the sides in case you need to go hunting velocaraptors or anything else that requires that safari expert look. I wear it with the brim down and the front slightly tipped to a soft rounded dipping peak so it looks like a kind of cowboy hat for the new millennium. people stare when I wear it but i love it and I'm too old to give a frig what people think. I wear it with my denim jacket and jeans and i look like a rancher type (I think) who isn't trying to look like a cowboy and just wears this stuff because it's practical for out door work. It's water proof and lets the head breathe in warm weather and keeps the sun off the face and the back of the neck. It has a pocket on the inside for documents or tabacco or spare bullets perhaps. I would look a dork in it if i wasn't so goddamn handsome and, therefore, able to pull just about any look off with aplomb. ... laughing and pointing IS the new 'thumbs up' isn't it?

New topic really, but can't be arsed starting a new thread, and the girls have girlinated this one anyway... Anyone getting any of these phish emails? I get about an average of one a day. Do my head in. Not that I'd be stupid enough to fill in a form giving away my every banking secret in a link from an email (avec address which is obviously as bent as a 7 bob note) -- it's just the thought they think I would be. And they're not giving up. Piss off and go hassle some dozy old woman, much more fertile soil.

no...the spam filter on hotmail is pretty effective and the one at work has a wall like a nuclear bunker so I don't get much at all. And do you like these earrings?

That copper will turn your ear-holes green ya know.

If you love them, so do I.

I'm like totally into platinum these days like I would sooo never do copper darling (except for electro convulsive therapy). I went to this like sooo cutesy boutique off a little side street in wimbledon village and the guy was just like so like in tune with my style and he said these were like the purrrfect compliment to my skin tone

like...you sure...like....you weren't like in California....like? no-what-i'm-say'n?

like totally!

You're butt crack isn't showing too I hope?

no, I tried to be california and girly but I can't sustain it. I am a denim clad scruff through and through! dunno how i'm going to make it through the wedding day.

Well, you can always have a bone or toggle-bolt pierced through your tongue or something. Just stay away from strong magnetic fields, you'll probably live a long time.

a) dress codes are fun... they are... I like dressing up to do things. But I also like dressing up to do things when I feel like it, so I have been known to walk to Norwich market to buy a coffee in 4 in wooden mules, full slap and glossy hair (and clothes too, obviously). I like dressing up for dinner out, just because that's the point of it, in a way. It is all about the occassion - if I wanted to have a nice meal with someone I love I'd just do it at home and save the mad dash for the stairs after. b) wear flip flops jude - some nice ones with some beads or a bit of sparkle on them. Next have some, and so do Dotty Ps. c) Liana - gasp! NO to clothes police... let people wear what they want... even if it sickens you! <> I just want to know what qualifies as 'tight' before I am mortally offended. (Does a pair that fits perfectly and flares out at the bottom count as tight?) do I look really shocking? I thought I looked kind of attractive. d) my ex-husband used to wear a trilby and a monnacle. Really he did. When I first saw him I thought, 'there's a stylish man who is happy in his own skin'. He was so happy in his own skin that most of his shirts were buttonless and he went to an important meeting once in a tie die shirt done up with paper clips. What can I say?

were you married to mick hucknall? And if you saw the woman who lives next door to me, you would start appointing clothes police yourself. Really.

ha ha ha ha ha hahaha No I wasn't married to Mick Hucknall (god you've made me laugh a lot though... I wish I'd thought of saying that when were still together).... ahha... but tight you mean actually tight. Fair enough.