Wine

>>>a cold white Sancerre or a red Chateau Neuf de Pape.<<< Fergal, are you my clone? Good quality red wine never gives me a hangover, unless I've gone stupidly over the top and drunk two bottles+. Cheap red wine and its chemicals always does unless I drink less than a bottle. White wine, I love. Crisp and dry and bone-chilling cold. Lizzie, Ely doesn't need me to defend him but I will. It's far too easy to misinterpret humour on the web (unless it is IN YOUR FACE style stuff - usually not very funny at all) ... I should know, having had many posts of mine taken the wrong way over the years. I've not met Ely nor interacted with him via email or messenger but I know enough about him from his forum persona to know what a nice bloke he is and, also, to know when he is joking (most of the time) and when he is serious. Don't take things so personally, Liz. Besides, Ely knows fuckall about wine so why listen to him in the first place? Was my last line my humour or an attack on Ely and his taste? I know which it was but how open to interpretation is it?

Ok - so look - this is all in the name of research for ABC talers obviously - but I've just drank the best part of a bottle of Cotes du Rhone Villages because a very old friend turned up unexpectedly from Dubai and .... well you have to be hospitable don't you? Anyhow, whilst clearing up I see the bottle says 1.8 units per 125ml glass. That's not good is it? Think I've done my quota for the week and it's only Monday. Shall report on hangover - but will need specialist to report on state of liver. [%sig%]

>>>I've just drank the best part of a bottle of Cotes du Rhone Villages<<< Please tell me you didn't leave any?

Well no - there's a minute bit left - but if I drink it I'll have to say - "I've just drunk an entire bottle of Cote du Rhone...' [%sig%]

Go for it otherwise Ely will call you a 'party girl' tomorrow. And so will I.

It's done.

I'm a martyr to science. [%sig%]

I havent had a drink for a month! Ferg popped over and forced me to drink 5 bottles of wine with her. She is so bad. The ensuing hangover has made me toy with the idea of signing the pledge.

4 red and 1 white by the way.

All that blood!

I had a rather nice red last night. At 4 euro I was very apprehensive but it turned out to be quite palatable if a little young. AND I didn't have a hangover at all this morning. I have made a fascinating discovery!!! If I drink two or three glasses rather than two or three bottles it doesn't make me feel ill the next day!

Stormy, you come over all "Ely's a nice bloke" and then go and diss my knowledge of vino! I have intimate and deep knowledge of every single variety of wine there is and could describe both of them to you to such a degree that you'd be able to tell them apart just from the colour. (I don't include rose because that's just both of them mixed together- a bit of inside info for the amateur there... don't mention it) thanks for the sentiment though but I think it's all a bit of a misundersdtanding and I'm not really hurt by Lizzie's vitriolic and viscious attack on me, my work, my honour and everything I stand for. I've managed to draw my trembling slender neck from the noose I set up over the desk and can see light at the end of the tunnel with the help of friends, red wine, and the medical staff here at the safe house I booked into last night to save myself from the harm of Lizzie's cyber rapier. I think she was just being a little short sighted and miopia is to put the record straight and move on. (geddit? miopia- my hope here? ahhh genius!)

Actually, it's 'myopia'. Even better.

Izn't it it'z?

It moight be, Missi. It moight be.

so it is AG, weird, because 'miotic' describes an abnormal contraction of the pupil of the eye. how come one is 'Mi' and the other 'My'? Especially when the medical prefix 'myo' means of the muscle and short sightedness has nothing to do with muscles but is to do with the focal length of the eyeball. I always thought it was miopia... I don't now. still funny though eh?

The US Supreme Court just allowed out of state wine sellers to ship directly to consumers across state lines. This is good news. I have in my hand an empty bottle of Chrisman Mill First Vinyard Reserve which I have been draggiing around to every store in the area for the past year in an attempt to get the owners to order, to no avail. This is a Kentucky Red Wine, not that expensive but without a doubt one of the finest Red wines I've ever had. Now all I have to do is call them on the phone and have them drop me a case to my door. Yahoo!

doesn't the focal length of the eyeball have something to do with the contraction of the optic muscles around the eyeball? If they're short, doesn't that pull the lens out of focus?

i dunno, I'm remembering from 'O' level biology and I thought you were just born with short eyeballs.

I dunno, either. I did pre-med at uni, but eyeballs weren't my area of interest. I wanted to do emergency medicine or trauma.

If I had continued my medical studies, no doubt I would have seen half of you winos in A & E at some point... :-P

Right - the findings of my painstaking research into the effects of drinking an entire bottle of Cotes du Rhone Villages at 1.8 units per 125ml glass are as follows: (drum roll) It has given me a hangover. I shall be informing The Lancet. [%sig%]

Maybe I am your clone Stormy... what a strange turn of events us both turning up here on this site. I have to say that Liana is definitely *lying* when she says I forced her to drink 5 bottles of wine. What actually happened was that she forced *me*. (Don't forget the 3 gins and tonics in the pub either....) Despite feeling I might die the next morning, I do remember that some of that wine was bloody very nice - especially the first bottle (when I was alive enough to be able to taste it)... I used to hate white, but sometimes white hits the spot just perfectly. About 20% of the time. The rest it has to be red. I like French reds and sometimes Spanish. Ahhh, wine... if I had a wine cellar that's where I'd be right now. I'd probably never leave it, and there would be the ominous glug and pop of corks and me drinking. Good job I don't then.

Jude you're a genius! And to think, all these years I've been concentrating my research on the shape of the glass... [%sig%]

Merlot for me. I like the fruitier versions, with lots of plum and blackcurrant notes.

isnt he that wizard. I like that frimilch one.

white anything.

I'm a wine moron. German fruity sweet white, chilled.

There are some very good whiners here.

For flashie, from one who recognizes a self-reference when she hears it: *SMACK! SMACK!*

A dry white Chablis. But not in the quantity I've just drunk it! Could you all please pray to the alka saltza fairy for me? (When you have to use fingers to count out the babysitter's fee - you know you're in trouble.) [%sig%]

Useless bloody fairy. [%sig%]

a cold white Sancerre or a red Chateau Neuf de Pape. though, at the mo, Hock, Bulgarian red plonk, or Blue Nun if I'm lucky.

*looks nauseous*

red, the redder the better. The sort of stuff a Spaniard would use to wash his flip flops in. It has to be rich and strong and deep. Rioja, naturally, merlot anything from the warmer bits of the med. Ozzy wine is alright but lacks that depth I crave. French red wine is just tepid and a little too gentle for my taste. try a large CHILLED glass of rioja first thing in the morning if you're feeling a bit rough and need to get a hard day's work done, instead of breakfast. yum!

Red gives me a hangover from Dante's fifth circle of hell. It lowers me to the very dark bowels of Hades. I like it but it is definite no-go area so I'm stuck with white!

Hmmm. White gives me a headache, although a lovely, very cold fruity Chardonnay on a hot summer day is worth the pain... But I still like Merlot the best...Errazuriz from Chile is simply divine.

I've done the headache study on both white and red wines. Overall, I find more red that doesn't generate a headache. I think there may be a validity to this also, as my girlfriend has the same reaction to the same wines. The most headache free reds seem to be South African, Chili and Italian and Spanish. French wine is overrated. Australian wine is goat piss with food coloring and is guaranteed to generate a headache. (this has nothing to do with resident twerps from the same area but is an interesting coincidence nontheless.)

Wow, RadioWino - you seem to have done some pretty extensive research -are there any more gems you would like to impart to a keen wine drinker?! Personally, I find too much red or white, particularly on an empty stomach , will give me a headache - although I prefer white on the whole. I find that red wine is a no-no for me socially as it turnes your tongue and teeth black!! NOtogood when you do what I do for a living....

Yes, as a matter of fact. Don't chill your wine.

come on! how can you people drink white wine? It's crap and only a short step up from alcopops and lucozade! red wine is a real drink. It's also good for you in that it contains antioxidants and is generally considered good for the blood and cholesterol levels if taken in moderation (like garlic etc) There's a warm, friendly feel to red wine that the more high-falutin' whites with their 'stand offish' taste and party girl reputation could never achieve. as for hangovers from red wine.. see above

Yes well, Ely, you always have , er, forthright opinions on everything and shoot down any comment I, and in fact others, make on these theads. People's tastes in alcohol are just that - so I don't know why you insist on making such sweeping generalisations - I am sure I do not know whatever it is I seem to have done to rattle your cage! I have always just preferred white wine, although I do drink red from time to time and enjoy it. Hoever, my preferences do not automatically make me some airhead, or pretensious 'party girl'. I do think that people react differently to different types of alcohol, and whilst I am sure that you are right about the health benefits of red wine in moderation - it is possible that it just doesn't agree with some people!

Hmmm...maybe we should have sheep stomp the grapes for this years Vintage instead of those large bladdered goats?

I'm sorry Lizzie I truly wasn't having a go at you, I was just making my usual attempt at humour, sorry if it read like it was aimed at you- it wasn't. the comments about white wine are, naturally, just my own and were of the wine itself and not its drinkers. As for shooting down everybody's comments then I feel you've done me an injustice there. I don't see myself as a 'shooter of comments' and I'd like to think others on here dont either. If you feel I've been having a go at you then I can assure you that I haven't, honest, cross my heart. I can't remember any of your comments that I've disagreed with rigth now but if there are any then they're not personal, just my opinons and aimed at nobody in particular. I try and keep things light hearted on here (god knows there are enough wars going on without me getting on anybody's case) but I do have strong views and I like to air them as much as I like to hear the strong views of others. It's only when they become abusive or personal that it goes too far and I've only done that rarely and with (I think) good reason. I know who I dislike on here and it's a short list that doesn't contain your name- hence the friendly nature of this post which, had it been someone else I was responding to, would have been a lot shorter and more direct as I'm sure you can guess. So, no hard feelings, I'm sorry if I've offended you at all but take my word that it's not what you seem to think it is. Ely.

My rules are (as far as I remember): white in a pub - it's all going to be pretty bad but if it's cold and bad it goes down easier. Red at home. On the headache debate, both give a hangover the next day but white makes you puke too, especially two or more bottles. I *preens* haven't had a hangover for 8 and 1/2 months!

This is kind of embarrassing to admit, but the reason I don't drink red wine is that as a youngster I saw a farmer kill a pig. There was so much blood. I remember that it had a strong sickly smell, and every time I see a glass of red wine it reminds of the squealing pig. In those days some farmers didn't give a shit about rules and regulations, he just slit it's throat and let run round the yard until it dropped.

MMMM, nice, Missi. *takes another sip of cabernet sauvignon*

Did you chase it around with a glass?

Ely's right about breakfast. A few glasses of red sets you up nicely for the day, as well as being good for your heart.

No Milton, Ian said 'A' glass, not a 'few' glasses.