Vegetarianism

I liked meat. Gave it up when I was 17. Still not eating it. Feel happier.

i have a vegetarian daughter who seems to live on quorn fillets ... tho when someone told her the other day that maccy d chips are fried in beef fat she said she didnt care as she wasnt THAT vegetarian ... (since then i have been saving myself a pan and cooking her quorn fillets in with the bacon/chicken/whatever) so there must be degrees of vegetarianism ... i am not vegetarian but the thought of your dripping bloody steak makes me feel very queasy ...

I am definitely with Liana on this. Dripping juicy bloody barely cooked steak. That would always be my downfall if I were to do a Morrissey. (That means go vegetarian and not to move to LA.)

Wolfie, have you ever told me? perhaps I have just not asked the right questions or seen the people I know eat? this has me thinking now.

Hurrah Spack. You should come to mine for dinner sometime. My rare steak is tops. No Smiths soundtrack for dinner in my house though i am afraid.

I was a veggie for a few years and then I went to Barcelona and scoffed lots of chicken. I felt bad about it for a while. I did not know the chickens names of course. If I did I would have felt worse. I don't eat red meat. Ralphie

I don't eat meat. Or steak. I wasn't over fussed with the taste of meat in general, then I stopped.

er no...probably because the last time I saw you, you were standing on my foot, breathing alcohol fumes into my ear so strong that they might have made Olly Reed blush.... I suppose the subject of food usually only comes up if you feed people or eat out with them. Bet you haven't heard of a veggie wolf, huh? I suppose I got sick of tearing those sheep carcasses to pieces. (I've fed wolves by the way, in the summer when the flies are at their most active, sitting like a black cloud of doom over their food....believe me, you'd ALL turn veggie at the smell of those carcasses....wolves seem to like them though.....)

Much obliged Liana. I'd love to. Have steak, will travel. (I've never really understood that turn of phrase, what does it mean?)

I was veggie for three years but packed it in after a trip to the USA in 1984. I eat organic meat at home and when I'm out I eat anything I'm afraid - but not MacDs or Burger King or any of that rubbish. I eat a lot of veggie stuff as my girls are both veggie and it's easier not to cook two meals at night. I love my meat rare and bloody - and organic. I am prepared to kill it myself in order to eat it. I was brought up on a farm and know all this stuff. I strangled my first chicken when I was six. If you are prepared to kill it then feel free to eat it!

I don't think I know anybody who is a vegie. Isn't that odd?

Yup, I agree. I think all meat should be called after the animal. You'd be suprised how much calling a sausage a bit of pig can put people off. Stupid. Get your cow in a bun! Who wants chopped up cow in a bun? mmmm.

You like Cud. I thought i was the only person in the world who liked Cud. Had a friend in uni who used to call them Crud just to wind me up. Love that song Purple Love Balloon. Know that's got nowt to do with V'ism but there you go. i'm a veggie and used to like meat but now i don't even want to eat it, no desire to. Can't remember what it tastes like. Do catch myself thinking 'mm what a nice smell' then realise i'm smelling someone cooking meat but that's about as far as it goes...

Mmmmm chopped up cow in a bun *Salivates like Homer*

Killed a Hen at six!

Mmm. Smell of pig from downstairs. Back once sated. Bye.

I agree about the dripping blood, Liana. Ohhhhhhhh yeah. To not eat on moral grounds, you have to be a vegan, really. Otherwise, there are too many holes in the argument ("Ah, but if you stop eating meat, they'll continue to kill calves for leather, and also so we can have the milk meant them. There are many milk-drinking, leather-jacket wearing vegetarians who continue to use the "I won't kill animals" logic, like my mate Sharon.) As a vegetarian, it's better to use the health, lifestyle, personal choice argument. But come on. Vegetarianism is SO 1993. It's a dying fad.

Yr right about the dying fad thing - I'm sure I read (read or dreamed, one of the two) that the number of vegetarians is decreasing year on year.

Because meat is being produced in a fairer manner I reckon.. people dont feel morally obliged to make such a stand against the meat industry these days.

Yes, I'm not surprised Stormy doesn't know any. Did you any "back in the day" Storms? I knew loads then. Now I know one stubborn b**tard.

eh?

don't think so paul, may have come across a veggie once in a while but no one close

I gave up eating meat quite gradually, years ago. Been veg. for quite a while. I gave it up because of the increasing crap they put into meat (BSE, salmonella,.. you name it..) It struck me then that the human race is being fed junk, and sometimes dangerous junk. When you know that they routinely feed cows, sheep, chickens etc with chemicals, growth hormones and such, you realise what you are putting down your throat. Eventually I came to think more morally, I thought, why should a living thing have to die so I can eat something? When it just aint necessary, because we can live healthilly without meat. Try reading J.M. Coetzee 'The Lives of Animals'

I think at least half of the people I know are veggies. Just goes to show how your own experience is not necessarily that of the majority - as most people think it is.

I remember "the drummer from Cud" being an unlikely cult hero in the NME (or MM?) as well.

I actually was sad enough to go veggie when i had a Smith's phase at college. However, I quickly realised you can't beat a double bacon cheeseburger from BurgerKing It's not called "King" for nothing. I went out with a veggie photographer girl who used to scream at me when I headed for the "King". "I can't stand the smell," she cried. & "IT'S FLESH." The King won. The King always wins.

I was veggie until maybe two weeks ago. I now eat the meat. I eat all of the meat!

like i say, you can't beat "The King"

is there a liking smiths connection to being vege then? *throws all the quorn burgers out immediately*

I came across a veggie once too stormy... Oh dear, Im terribly sorry.

Yes, Liana. There was a song/album called "Meat is Murder" which may give you a clue to Moz's position on this.

Oh yes of course. That uplifting laugh a minute album, how could i forget...

There is also a song by Cud called Only a Prawn in Whitby that details how Cud's singer spotted Morrissey devouring seafood . . .

Yeah, well it wouldn't be like a veggie to be hypocritical now would it.

You know me, Stormy. I have also been an animal activist in my time and er hem...painted a few slogans on a few places. I still get angry over cruelty in general but I also get irritated with the aggression ironically that vegetarians create, particularly to the 'man down the pub'. Typical dialogue (very sweaty man stinking of rum and pasties): You one of them vegetable people...what you got them shoes on for...don't you know tomatoes scream....ain't you had a sausage in a while...God wouldn't have given us teeth if he meant to make us eat that veggie muck. I just look at his rouged face that speaks of high blood pressure, stuffed arteries and an early death and smile. Personally, I used to like bacon sandwiches but I'm happy enough to cook meat for my man and the mini carnivore. I just get on with it, don't preach and don't think that I am better than anyone else because I made a different choice.