oddline personalities
Wed, 2003-12-03 18:05
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oddline personalities
Trial started today of a man who allegedly murdered a willing victim then dismembered him with the victims consent......
The victim was a 43-year-old Berlin computer technician who had sold his car, written a will and taken the day off work to sort out what he called a "personal" matter.
He then went to Armin M's home, where the pair reportedly agreed to cut off his penis.
The victim was then allegedly stabbed to death - still apparently with his approval - and cut into pieces.
The whole incident was filmed on videotape, and prosecutors say that the whole crime was committed for the purpose of sexual enjoyment.>>
WTF????
That's the second time today someone has told me I'm Dickensian!
I'm just finsihing Peter Ackroyd's excellent biography of the old fella so it must have rubbed off on me.
Well according to the Utilitarian happiness principal in philosophy a sadist torturing a masochist is perfectly moral.
Odd though.
There should be a law against it.
I am baffled as to how the emails between these two might have been... and what on earth would make anyone answer a request for the opportunity to be slaughtered.. have to be a special kind of masochist there i reckon...
It's not legal though. In the UK in 1990 there was the 'spanner'case where gay men who were into SM made a video of themselves The police came across the video of the men - cutting each others penis' and nailing foreskins to a board and suchlike. They identified the men and prosecuted them for assault. The problem was though that the men had all agreed to this and the video was for their own entertainment. Therefore, why should they be accused of assault when the whole thing was consensual? The convictions were upheld though and the men served prison sentences of up to four and a half years.
*faints*
Surely they could have just popped down to Blockbusters if they wanted a video, and saved themselves a lot of bother?
Bugger.
Honestly, I am beginning to feel like my grandmother... i am baffled and shuddering at all this... i always say as long as nothing is made compulsary, each to his own... but gawd...
What I can't understand is that on the radio they said the "victim" actually ate a part of himself before he was killed.
Are these people sane or am I the crazy one?
He was probably allowed a last meal, yes.
mmm I'm guessing hot dog, sausage on stick, frankenfurter, meat and two veg......oh noooooooo
I saw this documentary a while ago where a chap paid to have his wedding tackle shredded by cheese grater.
Or was that he wanted to put it in the bacon slicer at work, yes that's right then they both got the sack when they got caught.
Was he Danish?
Who got the sac though?
sorry.
Well it does make you think. Maybe the saying about not having had such a good laugh since your granny caught her tit in the mangle is an example of low technology sexual gratification.
hahahahahahah
Aren't sadists/masochists supposed to have a trigger word that essentially means "stop?" ("Aghh! Ackkkk! Ooohhhh! Popsicle! Whew, that was great!")
What might that word have been for this pair? I mean, once you've started such a thing and all...
This individual - even though his victim was apparently willing - is deserving of life imprisonment. how can anyone consider leaving a cannibal to roam the streets? A bloody cannibal? I think to even quibble over this matter is a sign of the inherent bankruptcy of political correctness.
If an acquainutence of yours begged you to butcher him, would you? No, of course not. The Pope was probably correct when he spoke of the encroaching 'culture of death.'
Did the victim say: "Armin, I don't feel too well..."?
Ive never understood this trigger word business... (i am feeling older and more hibited by the minute here) surely the best word to indicate a point at which you should stop, is "stop"? If the answer to that is that it would spoil the moment, as the person or persons would be essentially playacting, then what would the word popsicle do apart from make you feel like a complete knob so to speak? (or an incomplete knob if you are the unfortunate bloke above)
My understanding is that "stop" doesn't work because that's part of the whole game...the "victim" should be yelling "stop! stop!" for the sadist's fun.
But, yes, it does seem like you'd feel ridiculous yelling "popsicle," etc. But if you've agreed to the whole enterprise, and find yourself strung up like a plucked chicken in somebody's basement, it seems that embarassment would be the last thing on your mind.
yes i suppose so.....
I feel very old. I think I'll get my big slipper out.
(thats a heated footwarmer, not a punishment device btw)
Apparently the removed penis was flambeed and eaten together by the two men.
What would be a suitable desert after such an unusual starter.
Lord. Gives a whole new meaning to "Coq au Vin."
It does, it does. Imagine getting home and theres a note on the oven saying 'your dinners in my underpants, bring a sharp knife'.
Dessert could only be dump cake.
That's presuming there was anything left of his ar.se to produce it
Gawd you're so crude Belle, sometimes.
Top dessert choice there Sabelle hahaha.
I've just read a piece on this in a copy of the Sun I picked up on the train. It seems that this bloke has had a number of other potential 'victims' turn up before - but they all said stop before the vital moment. One guy complained he was cold and didn't want to carry on, another one was chucked out by the butcher as he wanted to have his head cut off and he was deemed to be too fat!
This is weirdness taken to the ultimate limit.
I'm all for 'each to his own' - but these people need saving from themselves. This is insanity any which way you look at it and they need medication!
Want to borrow my big slipper Tony?
i'm not sure about saving people from themselves........ the man obviously wanted to die albeit in a grisly way. good on him i reckon. taking copious pills was obviously far too monotonous for the man.
i simply cannot disagree with euthanasia. who could possibly tell anyone they have no right to die....
We could look on the bright side: If this sort of thing continues, it just means more parking spaces for the rest of us.
Not in Brighton! They've decided to give us communal bins that are taking up the parking spaces - and they'll soon get filled up with bones so they'll need more of them.
i thought i was reading a newsreel conceived by 12 year olds for a drama class. Actually i find this is the world i live in. Well, thinking about it carefully, it is not that crazy. In the need to posses an identity, a process which internalises our thoughts, there is little wonder that some people consider what it would be like to posses another's idenity. The body is the plaything of representation its consumption; the trangression of one body and absorbtion into another is going to produce a new body and therefore a new identity. Yes, this i agree is the identity of a mad person who i would rather not believe exists, but hey, someone's going to get a thesis out of it.
i just realised that one of those sentences is mashed up. put the semi-colon after representation.
Anyway. what good would medication do. It's a bit Dickasion.
typical, hysterical, daily mail readers overreaction.