turn offs

People who wear sunglasses in doors. And people who programme/program? really annoying barry ringtones into their mobiles, then make you listen to them.

PS - no cultural offence meant to anyone by using the term barry

Anyone called George Myself

I once had a boyfriend who was completely obsessed with washing his bottom after going to the loo. He was darn good-looking but this took the biscuit....

not to mention the buns....

Front bottom or back bottom Wolfie? Maybe he was just being hopeful...... ;o)

A friend of mine once went out with a girl from a well-to-do family who had a sponge on a piece of cord affixed to the wall next to the facilities in the bathroom. He didn't stay going out with her for long. Horrid image - if I am allowed to use the word horrid.

Actually, I'm going to apologise now for that cheap shot. Unnecessary and I shouldn't be setting a bad example. But the sponge thing is not nice.

What sort of sponge? Cream? I have aversion to people in leather trousers. Unless they have motorbike parked outside or fight dragons for a living.

as long as it wasn't a contraceptive sponge, I wouldn't have been too horrified Andrew.... ....it wasnt was it???

*throwing up at thought of sponge near toilet*

ok...was it near the sink, or the toilet? Cos this is quite important. If the family entertained many thieves, a sponge on a cord by the sink seems pretty reasonable..... by the toilet is unthinkable... hadnt thought of that (thus proving unthinkable point) not that I'm casting any aspersions on your friend Andrew....

i have an aversion to people cutting their toenails anywhere near me ...

Gosh Liana, I didn't even think of the front bottom. No, Back bottom I'm afraid. He didn't have a sponge hanging by the loo (shudders) but he always wanted to tell me about his actvities in the bathroom. For God's sake, how quickly can you kill romance? Actually, if you think about it, aren't human beings in general a complete turn off (sneaks off to burn her other half's slippers, sweep up his toenails and enlist in a Buddhist monastery...)

'Pacifically' or 'persifically' as someone once said in an email to me - a definite no-no. Also, 'proberly' [Ralph, take note!] belongs in that category. Dress-wise, the biggest turn offs for me are flip flops and saggy-arsed jeans, especially when seen on the same individual.

slippers ... if i find the object of desire wears slippers ... that goes down like a cup of cold sick ...

Liana, no the sponge was for post-water-closet activity. Still one of the most unpleasant things I've been told by a friend - save for a potentially defamatory story I was told about gargoyle-faced footballer Iain Dowie...

white socks big ears bites their nails annoying laughs polo necks *off to think of some more*

Grey shoes on a man. (the lace up kind), with brown socks.

Well, I guess we now know what happened to the notion of cleanliness is next to godliness. :) Having thought about this for a while, I'd say excessive jewelry is a turn off. This includes excessive "body piercings." Brrrrr. And I'm not too keen on perfume. A VERY light scent is nice, like a gently scented soap might be, but most actual perfume gives me a splitting headache. Certain kinds of voices, especially the high-pitched whinny screetching nasal sound, are definitely to be avoided (in men or women mind you). The worst is the "oscillating dentist drill accusatory parental whinge." Mother's around the world have patented this sound: imagine sitting in a dentist chair. The dentist is testing the drill: wheeee wheeee wheeeee wheeeee. I can't recreate this in a words, but you know the sound. Then imagine your mother's voice giving a scolding lecture. wheeee wheeee wheeee wheeee. "why did you do that. wheeee. how could you... wheeeee. donlt you know.... wheeee" The sound is the same. Think about it, if you dare. This sound gives me the same splitting headache as the heavy perfume, and it is not confined to mothers addressing their children.

Being accused of being 'Sukie' instead of 'Suki'. It's downright lazy witch-hunting. Ron T. W. Atkinson. Adverts that say 'Simply The Best'. Songs called 'Simply The Best'. Arrogance.

Two out of three so far! I always miss the turn-off for Grays on the A13. On a more serious note, I can't stand conceit or meaness. Deceit is pretty grim as well and I don't really care too much for people who slag you behind your back and haven't got the guts to look you in the eye and say what they think.

Track suits. Especially the ones with cuffs on the ankles. Thick forearms, with no discernable wrists - worse if wearing a cheap watch on top of them. Pinky finger rings. Men who say "cool" and "coolio" *shudders* Men who eat steak well done. Of course, meanness, but mainly of spirit rather than financially. If someone is craeful with money I dont mind so much. Mean with emotions, humour and generosity of spirit is unforgivable.

discovering they read sci fi ...

Judgementalism.

*mental notes* remember not to order steak when out with liana. Check record collection to make sure bryan adams was not accidently purchased all those years ago. tone down annoying laugh. look missi in the cyber eye when calling him a pretensious twat :-) I only have one main dislike about people. It is when they try to make out they are something they clearly are not. The lady half of a couple we have known for many many years constantly goes on and on about her working class roots. She interjects this monologue with remarks about how the personal assistant at the outfitters was very helpful and is constantly checking my clothes for designer labels and talks about the price of everything.... "ooh it was quite cheap really" (not). Once she took a particular fancy to a nifty shirt I was wearing... until the tesco 'items' label popped out. I was undone. One year she was in mid brag to other guests we had round at the time about how her husband had *so* much in common with his new rich Lebanese employer yadda, yadda.. I regret to report that I said something like "yeah, like they are fabulously wealthy, employ two chauffuers, have 6 houses in various parts of the world, and pay your husband a pittance for being main lackey" As ice breakers go I was particularly proud of that one. We don't see so much of them anymore. The Lebanese guy sacked him later. Too much in common I suppose. Sorry to digress Robert but, as a married man, I don't fancy anyone so cannot get turned off. ;- > although, I would imagine "here, meet your future stepson" on the first date could be daunting.

here are some things that piss me off about people in night-clubs:- girls who drag bags onto centre of dance floor and put them down where they can be in everybody's way. men who take pints onto centre of dance floor and then just stand there, holding them, spilling them. people who can't dance on dance floor. men who think they can dance but can't dance on dance floor. people who think they're cool because they live in Camden.

*learn how to spell pretentious*

Picky, picky, picky! I've always found it a big turn-off when the other person looks at me and says "I don't like you." There are less blatant variations of this message, but they all amount to the same thing.

*hides slippers* Quilted housecoats in pink or any other colour. The colour pink. Big pants. Year round suntans. Mobile phones.

*glances nervously at Fish's washing line*

I used to live in Camden... *she smiled in cool and superior fashion* ...was only eel 'n' pie shops and a veggie market in them days though...

*insists he knows nothing about females' washing lines*

Those who just want to talk about themselves all the time. On a big ego-trip of vanity fair. They think their perfect and won't admit it when they make mistakes. Tell evryone how great they are. They think their the best at everything, and whatever I do, they go out of their to try and prove that they can do it better than me, or know more about it than me. To make some kind of insane point that don't mean nothing. Just makes them look daft. Selfishness does my head in, when someone just takes and takes but doesn't give anything back. When someone thinks I'am stupid and thick because of the way I talk. I admit I use a lot of streetspeak, but it's become so ingrained in me that I can't help it. But it doesn't mean I'am stupid, just because I don't speak all prim and proper(whatever that is) People who put others in pigeonholes, and label them as a so+so kind of person. People who judge others on the kinds of clothes they were, or what music they listen to. So shallow that way of thinking is. Girls who are obssessed with image and are constantly looking at themselves in the mirror. Worrying too much about what people think, trying too hard to be cool. When I go out somewhere with them and start having a laugh with my friends; they get embarrassed by me and pretend I don't exist. Though I don't know why, cause nobody else gives a monkeys, people are just having a laugh with me too. Some girls just have this idea in their head of how I should be, and seem to put pressure on me to become that idea. The kind of man they want their friends to see me with etc. It's shallow man: Barbie and Ken philosophy. People who don't read books and think I'am boring because I do. I hate excessive talk. It drives me insane. People who just can't stop talking to me; and are always wanting me to be around them 24/7. Because they can't handle being on their own and get bored too easy. Constantly ringing me up, checking up on me, nagging at me. Wanting to know why I hadn't called them lately. God it sends me into madness. Somedays I don't answer the phone cause I don't want to get into a conversation with them. People who don't understand my need for space. Think I'am a bit wierd or strange because sometimes I like to be alone, and don't want to see anybody. People who try and make me conform to something they believe in, which I don't.

*hides mobile phone in washing basket*

wha-hey! Funky's on a downer! again! i'll second most of that though. especially the bit about people who can't accept when they're wrong and think they know it all. i mean, even i am occasionally wrong about some things. Andrea..am now expecting to see your (unrecognised) face staring out of one of those black and white photos of Camden - you're wearing a long dress that stretches right down to the ground and a carriage is passing by behind you. you have in your right hand a parasol.

justin ... please explain. I think I know what you are getting at but would like clarification before I answer .... on current form I seem to be wrong more times than right. If it is what I think it is then you are mistaken.

Is Stormy flirting with Justyn ? Like Robert, mine were mostly phrases. People who say "And he goes _____ and I goes ______" The word is says. People who say, "So I turns round and goes ________ and then he turns round and goes ________ " Really, were you rotating during the conversation ? People who say "In point of fact" People who say "Pacifically" I am very fussy on that sort of thing, but have more catholic tastes when it comes to looks, personality and the like.

ooooh yesss pacifically..... makes me grind my teeth....... good one

Yeah, the "goes" diction: Jimmy Durante spoke like that on stage, but he was an old vaudvillian comedian deliberately trying to sound uneducated. *ignores stormy question in bemused and puzzled manner* I don't mind mobile phones, unless (a) they are ringing (b) the other person is speaking into it when they should either be paying attention to me or to something even more important (like flying an airplane) (c) the owner of the phone is checking all 693 entries in their pre-programmed file during dinner (d) the owner finds the video game on their phone more interesting that "moi," and finally (e) the owner has pre-arranged for their friend to call 15 minutes into the first date just so said owner has the option to bail out with the "mom is in an ambulance" ploy. then again, (e) might well have its advantages for me as well, so perhaps that one's not so bad. Now that I think about it, items (a) through (e) are all "subtle" ways the other person can tell me "I don't like you." Probably the most amusing recent incident in my experience was the evening I invited a Swiss lady to dinner. We had been introduced through a couple of mutual friends. She showed up 45 minutes late (ok London Transport can be blamed for that, but so much for the myth of Swiss punctuality, I thought), but the real problem was that after about 10 minutes she had to excuse herself to leave the restaurant to walk 100 yards down the street to buy cigarettes, as her stash was no more. Even this would not have been so bad, except that this clever boots was studying to be a certified addition counselor and therapist! Doctor, heal thy own sorry self! That was the last time I saw her, though I do understand she successfully completed the course and returned to Switzerland.

didn't mean to look like I was on a downer...hehe jus listing me turn-off blurb. But it ended up becoming an essay. My minimilist mentor is looking at me disapprovingly again: this imaginery person who sits by my computer watching me; every time I write an essay in these forums, he deletes an mp3 file. If I don't stop writing these essays soon, I'll have no music left. Better stop now because he's raising his finger in a token gesture of warning.

I need a certified addition counsellor too - I'm useless at sums. Shouldn't that one be in the 'invitational' thread, Justyn? I love it when a simple typo throws up a whole new concept. I think the Stormy/Justyn confusion earlier was a case of mistaken identity when Stormy corrected his own spelling.

Oh no! *grinds teeth* Yes, I meant to say "addiction" counselor. *searches in vain for strength to do proper proofing before posting* Even more interesting, eddie, is the fact that I was a "CPA" in the U.S. many years ago (you call it "chartered accountant" here), fully certified, licensed to practice (never did get it right thought--just kept practicing), darn near killed me, it did. I could have used an "addition therapist" to get me out of that line of work sooner. Finally escaped in late 80s to join the ranks of the serially unemployed. Probably the only intelligent thing I ever did.

record collections that are full of compilation albums... someone agreeing with me because they don't want anyone thinking that there is SOMETHING they don't know, especially when i've just been talking absolute and very obvious bollocks... someone getting drunk when i'm not... someone trying to turn someone on...

dogstar! ... no you don't!

Coo, Chant, I wish... *tucks into jellied eels with gusto*

Funky, can't you put something in your mentor's tea? I LIKE your essays

I can't stand people who eat noisily, or chew noisily it actually makes me want to be sick i can't take it definetly a huge turn off. I also don't like women drinking pints, sorry i know that is really sexist and childish whatever i don't care i just don't like it very much. Have to agree on leather trousers it's somewhere above and i concur completely. Liars, bullshitters and those who take the piss out of people to make themselves look better, although it's not often that women do that compared to men.