For those who don't visit UKAuthors.com (tut, tut)...

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Mon, 2003-06-30 18:05

andrea

For those who don't visit UKAuthors.com (tut, tut)...

...some news about Voices From The Web, UKA's first anthology:

Ok, I've had an email from Bluechrome and this is what they say (I've omitted the hugs and kisses):

'I will hopefully have a PDF across to you within the next couple of days. We've followed the format pretty much as supplied, but have added a header on each page that includes the title and page number etc. Additionally, we've varied the font a little for the title of each author's section (their name and story/poem title) to try and separate things out a little.

Re extending the deadline. I can list the book on our site at the full price, but supply you with a separate link that means the book sells at the discounted rate - that way, people will need to come from the UKAuthors site to take advantage of the cheaper price. If we go this route, I'm quite happy for the discount to remain indefinitely - but it really will only work from your site, so you'll need to make it clear, as I don't really want to get into refunds. For people who haven't got credit cards, I'll set-up a PDF that people can download and print and send with a cheque etc.

Re the publication date. I'd aim for 6 weeks after the manuscript/cover have been agreed. We can actually get books a little quicker, but it is nice to send Press Releases/book information to the book shops a few weeks early to give their buyers a chance to get books in the shops, if they so choose.'

If you're interested, here are their requirements for manuscripts. For more info, you can visit Bluechrome Publishing:

'For poetry it's pretty much by invitation other than for our competition which Ronnie Goodyer is running at the moment. For fiction, we are looking for full length or novellas fiction, that is "unique" i.e. no Clancy/Archer/Grisham clones - but everything submitted is read. We prefer submissions to be in the form of a Word Attachment if possible (we'll take disks/CDs/Paper if that is the only option, but the turn-around is a lot slower).'

Natually there's even more info on UK Authors :-)

So now you know...

Sat, 2003-07-05 09:57

Pioden

so are you missip - so are you or are you scared

Mon, 2003-06-30 21:26

tut 'n' tut

we're not the only ones.

Mon, 2003-06-30 21:28

d.beswetherick

I did visit UK Authors once, but it was very hard to find my way around, like St Austell. d.beswetherick.

Thu, 2003-07-03 19:44

what did I tell ya A...........but still you persisted in making YOUNG UKA BUSY TOO! Ne'er mind the faithful will no doubt remain faithful.........the new visitors will leave.

Thu, 2003-07-03 20:05

Nolegs Luzhny

see, they're bringing their grief over here.

Thu, 2003-07-03 21:00

Andrea

Well, thank a lot for your input, guys. As L said, vive la difference, and as UKA, ABC and Young UKA's membership is rising steadily, we must be doing something right, right?

Sat, 2003-07-05 23:55

Gloop 4

Gloop 4 to HQ: Have located UKA escapee. Where do you want the package delivered? over. HQ to Gloop 4: Take it back to UKA please. over. Gloop 4: Do you have an exact address? over. HQ: Griefs desk. under. Gloop 4: What goes on there? wonder? HQ: No idea, but grief is always leering. gobble. Gloop 4: Message received and swallowed. out.

Thu, 2003-07-03 23:32

stormy_petrel

I think you were right to consider changes Andrea. It isn't as if the 'unnavigable' comments came from the nasties on this site. They were from 'nice' people who could, in another guise, be any old wannabe writers surfing the web for a new writing site. I found the comments over on uka in response to your thread there very defensive considering no one had read this thread prior to saying their piece. I think you need to consider yourself and the ambitions you have for your site. If you are happy with the rate of growth and the size of current membership then keep it as it is (keeps the natives quiet too.) If you want the site to be accessible to all then maybe it should be easier for a newcomer to find their way around. ABC is probably the easiest site on the web for navigation. But look how huge it has become. Possibly too big and impersonal. You have already made changes, over the last year, to suit the hardcore members of UKA and if they and more importantly, you, are happy then keep the status quo. One thing I've noticed about ABC is that despite varied criticism since it's inception it has not changed. (Which has probably been to your benefit since all those here that wanted a comment facility have switched to UKA!) As you say, viva la difference. But do what 'you' want to do for the future of your site and not just what 10 out of 600 members want. I'd hate it to become a clone of abc. And yes Flash, I saw your comment about my gloop remark. You trying to get me in trub or what? I do find it gloopy. Doesn't mean it is ... just my opinion. Jelly baby anyone?

Thu, 2003-07-03 23:43

#10

Flash

I thought you might find the prospect of being dealt with severely by Andrea and Pioden rather appealing. I'll have a Jelly baby, do you fancy a Scone lightly buttered.

Sun, 2003-07-06 12:01

#11

Flash

"btw ... I eventually found you via your story about trolls here on abc being jealous of new writers who can write better than they can?" Me trying to get you in trub???. 60hrs 30 mins roughly.

Sun, 2003-07-06 13:27

#12

Gloop Captain

All gloopers please report back to Shout Box, UKA, Cyberspace. Your contracts state this Box must be full to the brim at all times with sycophantic gloop, puerile humour and bad spelling. Look sharp now lads.

Sun, 2003-07-06 14:06

#13

Pioden

Jelly baby anyone? or maybe you'd prefer - a Rock cake ?

Sun, 2003-07-06 14:12

#14

Pioden

hey what about us girls ? besides bad spelling is due to my nicking letters off peoples key boards don't be such purist go creative - if you dare !

Tue, 2003-07-01 13:58

#15

andoru odoneru

lol ..yeah ..I did too ..know what you mean d. ..maybe more like Slough, tho.

Tue, 2003-07-01 14:34

#16

tony_dee

Thanks for info again Andrea, have added bluechrome to my favrites :-)

Sun, 2003-07-06 16:53

#17

Andrea

And you think the UKA shoutbox is stupid, Gloop?

Sun, 2003-07-06 17:23

#18

Gloop Captain

pioden: mmmmmm wonderful day ins't it mmmmm love the front page Andrea coffee people ? pioden: we are suppose to be pure in our writing which means that from now on you can't play ok Pioden: or should be that I can't play - or maybe it should be we shouldn't play ? Pioden: any hows all creativity must cease ! it is no longer funny or should that be fun oh dear I'm getting this all wrong I know I am e-griff: Hmmmm e-griff: michael did not win again! Hoo bloody ray!!!!! e-griff: 'Ere, who stole my '_' ? Pioden: sssshhhhhh griff - its sunday e-griff: don't tell evryone I'm here, ot they'll guess!!!!! e-griff: who put those letters back in the wrong place? Romany: pi what is your 'real' street name? I am Welsh girl, might know how to say it! See Forum more silly things to post Andra: Coooeee all Federa win then! e-griff: yes, very good!!! Nice day! No michael, Federer (who deserves it) and no Justin- Henin-Cheat. !! HooosaH will navvy win later (mixed) ?? hope so Flash: I think you mean Fedora, first hat ever to win Wimbledon. e-griff: Gosh, Romany. Do you think you could get your tongue round 'Lesley'? I can do Branwen - but then I'm from Liverpool, the capital of north wales.... Pioden: Day isss Day iss dayoo - day light come and I wanta go home - isss day isssa day ohhhh - come mr tally man tally me a banana - day light comes and I wannta go home - Dayyyyyooooohhhh pioden: I was told that 'Lesley' was scottish !!! pioden: you've distracted me I was singing the Bananar boat song - and I will spell it how I want to !

Sun, 2003-07-06 17:51

#19

Liana

Um.... is there any longer a point to this thread?

Tue, 2003-07-01 22:06

#20

Stephen Gardiner

I tried ukauthors today and found it entirely unnavigable. But maybe I'm barking. Makes St Austell look simple.

Tue, 2003-07-01 22:26

#21

david floyd

I've had similar problems with UKA but yet to try St Austell, is it any good?

Sun, 2003-07-06 19:47

#22

Jeff

anything taken out of context looks silly, the beauty if the shout box is that it is silly in context as well.

Tue, 2003-07-01 22:30

#23

Stephen Gardiner

It's a fine town. It has good beer and I am sure, some very good authors.

Tue, 2003-07-01 22:31

#24

Karl Wiggins

I don't know St. Austell, but Slough's easy enough to navigate. Is UKauthors more like Tottenham, for instance? You think you're doing fine and you suddenly find yourself on that one way system AGAIN. If you can stay out of that trap, then it's simple enough.

Fri, 2003-07-04 08:48

#25

Mississippi

I can't imagine Pioden dealing with anyone 'severely'.

Fri, 2003-07-04 09:13

#26

Jeff Dray

THe shout box is a bit of fun, pure and simple, Gloop? if you want to call it that but remember its important not to take yourself too seriously. The site is easy to navigate provided you are capable of holding a map the right way up, I have never had any difficulty and I visit regularly. The only Crit I would have is that Andrea, wonderful person that she is, takes comments to heart and rushes off to to fix that which does not need fixing. As has been said elsewhere, the two sites are different, and long may they be so. ABC is a fine site too but I have to say I find it slower to get to the listings and sometimes IU think that ABC could learnb a thing or two from UKA in that respect. I like UKA for the fun and silliness just as much as thewriting, its a great releif from a stressed occupation. Just my 2 pennorth, don't jump down my throat.

Tue, 2003-07-01 22:57

#27

lottery_sperm

no, it's not as bad as the totenham one-way system. In fact, uka isn't hard at all. I pop over there for a shufti now and then. But as a newbie I agree you can be overwhelmed by the sheer volume of info on the front page. once you get used to it though you learn to ignore a lot of it. the forum is dead easy to find and is the same as this one apart from the fact that threads go the top if active. read work by clicking on the latest entry rolling box thing or by genre or by typing an author's name into the search box. best to avoid the shoutbox tho'. full of gloop.

Sun, 2003-07-06 21:27

#28

freda

well I like the box - reminds me of speech balloons on cartoons.

Tue, 2003-07-01 23:08

#29

Flash

I'm going to tell Pioden and Andrea what you said about the shout box. So there.

Tue, 2003-07-01 23:33

#30

skeggy buns (no...

I believe there is a lot of grief on the site. well avoided.

Tue, 2003-07-01 23:39

#31

lottery_sperm

andrea already knows my thoughts on the shoutbox, half s

Tue, 2003-07-01 23:42

#32

lottery_sperm

btw ... I eventually found you via your story about trolls here on abc being jealous of new writers who can write better than they can? What's that all about then? I've only ever seen good writers welcomed with open arms to this site.

Sun, 2003-07-06 23:54

#33

Stormy_petrel

Liana, the point of the thread was in Andrea's first post. Thereafter it has been a teasing load of nonsense. Could you lend the extraneous dot of your ellipsis to spider? He always seems to be one short. Flash, well done. Consider me nailed. 11hrs 50 mins approxy.

Tue, 2003-07-01 23:49

#34

Flash

Purely fiction Storms.

Tue, 2003-07-01 23:51

#35

lottery_sperm

Really? I read the comments you see. Can't comment meself since I am not a member (under any name)

Mon, 2003-07-07 00:49

#36

Gloop 4

We have delivered the package. We were asked to deliver this note in return. "This is how 'nice' the control freak members of uka treat their host" e-griff: GOD! why has member's webites re-appeared? Andrea? the object is someon from OCT '02 who only ever posted one piece - rubbish!!!! e-griff: ANDREA! 'Teenwriters's site has moved - all so OLD!!!wht are you up to? e-griff: TAKE THE BLOODY STUPID 'MEMBER'S WEBSITES AWAY! - unless you check them first! what a load of ........ Andrea: Will sort out tomorrow Griff - too knacked now Andrea: Thought it was nice idea for members to have their sites displayed e-griff: Calm, calm.......dear benefactress, you may have been a little precipitous when you ............ dylan: UKA footie team-am off to start a forum thead-... Pioden: I like the members website thing Andrea: Nite all Andrea: (Take a valium, Griff)

Mon, 2003-07-07 02:01

#37

savvy gloop

There's nothing for you here. This is a local shoutbox for local authors.

Mon, 2003-07-07 06:46

#38

Liana

Storms darling - common practise dictates in lit, that ellipses be three dots, you are quite correct... however, i (and many others) tend to use more when simply tailing off through, say, lack of interest............. bit like falling off a cliff.

Mon, 2003-07-07 08:12

#39

mississippi

I'm all for going dotty, along with Pesky. I was left a plentiful supply of the damned things back in the sixties, anyone short of a few sign on the dotted line ........................................................................................................................................................................

Wed, 2003-07-02 00:45

#40

Flash

You didn't read the comments did you?

Wed, 2003-07-02 00:51

#41

lottery_sperm

yes, but very quickly. flashed through them, like. I was on a mission. saw some comments from grief, tho' one appeared to be hidden, cade - who is hen of course, and yourself. only scan read them. but I got the gist.

Wed, 2003-07-02 11:37

#42

Andrea

'I believe there is a lot of grief on the site. well avoided.' Utter bollox. Best ignored.

Wed, 2003-07-02 12:55

#43

Richard

T'is, I UKA's little helper. I agree that UKA's FP looks busy, it could do with less side blocks and a shorter FP message (Andrea!) However, The community is great and I promise you there is almost NO grief on the site. We've got lots'o gizmos like the shoutbox or chatroom and you can even create your own five page website for free (the script needs a tweak here and there tho') like all websites, I think we tend to stick with the ones we know and are comfortable with. ABC is a great site and very successful. but so is UKA ta! Richard

Wed, 2003-07-02 13:14

#44

6legofficechair

grief = griff

Wed, 2003-07-02 15:03

#45

Wolfgirl

I find grief at a young man's funeral or a chocolate eyed starving child's cry but on UKA? Fun, sincerity and lots of juicy and motivating competitions, hard work and troll-free forums. How can any writer ever complain about seeing too many words? Busy? PAH!

Wed, 2003-07-02 15:13

#46

d.beswetherick

TROLL-FREE FORUMS! I'm tempted. d.beswetherick.

Wed, 2003-07-02 18:37

#47

6legofficechair...

'I believe there is a lot of grief on the site. well avoided.' Utter bollox. Best ignored.' Is that your final appraisal of grief, Andrea? You are far too generous.

Wed, 2003-07-02 18:43

#48

Andrea

Oh, bloody hell! My 'bollox' was s'posed to be tongue-in-cheek. Am now feeling suitably chastised, although I dunno what you lot have against Griff - he's a very productive member and has never cause a seconds trouble. Someone (who shall remain nameless, but of whom I'm very fond) did once compare the front page of UKA to an overstuffed cottage. I LIKE overstuffed cottages, but I see your point. On the other hand, the differences between UKA and ABC are kinda nice - it gives people choices and it wouldn't do, or at least would be pretty boring, if the two...ahem...most popular writers' sites in Europe, were the same. Ok, ok, I'll go off and see what can be done with the front page... *grumble, whinge, moan*

Wed, 2003-07-02 18:49

#49

Liana

it wasnt me *shuffles coughs* I agree, the two sites are very different, and long may they both prosper eh? Vive le whatever its called...

Fri, 2003-07-04 20:26

#50

Pioden

Does that mean YOU want ME to deal with YOU 'severely' Missip?.

Wed, 2003-07-02 22:42

#51

Karl Wiggins

Active threads go to the top!!!! I'll have to check this out!

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