Conversation: What is going on with the world?

Lets stop discussing about nephilim and Elohim as you and I differ on the meaning of similar sounding words in different languages and cultures. We both have a different meaning for the words, lets agree on that at least. As for the ancient monotheistic humans, there can not be more as one God, they had to find another way to describe these powerful creatures, so they called them Angel,Demon, or even Elohim.

"The seven heavens are rulled by the god yah/EL.. not? Sorry I am not used to call him yah or whatever.. I am used to call him (Jesus, father and holly spirit) So if you and ur mistress call our god warlord.. Its a bad word, if he hates us as creations, why he accomodate us.. Why he gave us philosophy, democracy, to love and forgive.. ?" Where did I say Yah/God Hates you? He does not hate you, or any human. Do not put words in my mouth please! My 'mistress' as you call her, is the Sister of Yahweh, she can call him anything she wants, but in this case I called him like this. And yes, Yahweh is a leader of the Seven. And yes, Yahweh was a god of war and storm here on Earth, that is what HUMANS made of him, priests, religions. And yes, almost every war in the past 2000 years was for a religious reason, in His name. 'God is love, and I burn anybody who denies Him' said by an inquisitor in Spain once. So think for yourself if he is a god of war, or that humans made that up to extend their power, as I said many times before already, but it seems you fail to understand to see the difference between what human history made of him, and what he really is. Yahweh/God represents love and peace, not war, it is for that reason that humanity is put for a choice, to live in love and peace, in harmony with nature, or keep on living like they do now and destroy themselves, no God needed for that, they are very well able to do that by themselves at the moment. Sometimes you need to make a hard descision, if you want to save someones life, it might be needed to cut off a leg. Even the most loving and caring doctor can tell you that. About names: Let me try to give you another little ethymological course: 'God' is a modern version of the old Germanic word Ghu-tó-m which means something as 'to invoke' or 'to call' and was used to describe the old gods in Northern Europe, who you can call to get something done, like a good harvest. Later it was used to translate the Greek word 'Theos' in the Bible to English, as description for the Christian God, 'whose name should not be mentioned and for this is called just God'. As he is supposed to be the only one, a name is not important anyway (also the name thing). Hence, 'God' is not a name, it is a title. Jesus is His son, not God himself, the same as that the Holy Spirit is not God. They form a trinity and rule as one collective. But also lets not discuss on this as it depends of your religious background on how you see this, if you are happy with your current image of God, it is ok with me. 'El' is a word that means 'lord' as in a respectful way to call/mention someone higher as you, think of 'mylord' or 'sire' in English. So also a title or description, not a name. Even Yahweh is a description, Like Micha'el, Rapha'el, Orifi'el are, actually every name is a description, it represents a hearable or readable version of an image in your mind, you call your mother 'Mother' but she also has a name, for both you will see the same image in your mind, but your neighbor will see another image when he thinks of 'mother'. Once you learn how to communicate in your brain you wil no longer use verbal names. "if you were just an instrument, you would not be able to communicate, speak, think, have conciseness.. but just an object to use when its needed." You should not see the word 'instrument' as a 'screwdriver', but as a 'means to make something happen'. I am an instrument from my creator to fulfill a task, the same as Angels are an instrument created by God to fulfill a task. Just like a Navy Seal can be an instrument for a president to kill someone. I was created, I fulfill my task, and when finished I will be assigned another task, or disappear, that is my purpose, just like an angels purpose. They get created when needed, and disappear when finished, or get reassigned. About your 'bizarre' dreams: I guess your spirit remembers previous lives and shows parts of them sometimes. "As for the naming thing you wrote down, saws that you do have a name.. is it.. " Yes, I have a 'name', it is just that you cannot hear or say it, that is why you can call me Areo, you can hear that. I once tried to tell my name to my channel, but he only sees an image and feels a certain sensation, but cannot use it to call me when he tries to repeat it, he is also not yet able to use my real name. "I am a human who uses the nick name orifiel, if that due.. in the other hand, I dont think I am posessed or something, if that is what you mean. lol" I meant that you say you are Orifiel, but you ar actually another person just using a name of an angel as Nickname, hence you are not who you say you are. This because you asked if I were Areo. Well, I am Areo. I use a human being to channel my words and thoughts, he is called different. When he speaks here he tells this first, to prevent misunderstandings.

You accuse me of blasphemy? if you mean that I challence the words in the bible, written and re-written hundreds and thousands of years after the events happened, and translated just as many times as there are languages. Each version hand written and copied. Each with a different meaning of words, an explanation/interpretation of the translator, or clerics. Then yes, you are right. But even you do the same, you do not believe the Hebrew version, only yours, while it is the same story, just told different. People have not even an idea how to say the name of God, so they made Yahweh or Jehovah of it because that fitted with the names of other regional gods. So how can you be sure your books are the truth and mine not? Because 'someone' told you so? We can talk days about what is the proper meaning of a word or name, you have your opinion, I have mine, both think apparently that what they say is the truth, so what is the use to discuss if none wants to accept the other truth as his truth? I say Elohim means this, you say they are that. What Rael says is his opinion, a third one. Same with Nephilim. We can keep saying yes/no for years this way, I think we have more useful things to do? Soon all will know the truth anyway. Now I challenge you: What if I am who I say I am? (Again and again, I am no angel, I also do not call you Italian, right? So call me Areo, or Protector, but not angel). What if what I say is the truth, and what you say is not? Your version of the truth can also be different from what really happened, do not be so self assured that you are the only one who knows what really goes on, as all of the books that gave you your knwledge were not written during the events but much later. Genesis was not written when it happened, it was also written many thousands of years later, from collected told and written stories. I tell you what I know about the events in the past, like I can tell you what happened yesterday as well, because I was there, not at creation, but when the first humans came here, I will also be here when the last ones leave. You can believe that, or not. What if God comes down to earth tomorrow, and tells you exactly the same as I do, will you tell Him He lies, because his story does not fit in your world? Will you even believe he is God? Will you dare to challenge your Gods on this? maybe you should read this: http://www.abctales.com/story/areo/conversation It may have happened What if your angel Michael tells you the same, wil you accuse him of blasphemy as well? Or Zeus? So why do that with me? You do not know anything about me. Maybe I am a Protector telling you this, maybe someone with a vivid imagination, you do not know, do you? I tell you that there is a truth, somewhere in the past, and there is a truth today, and they differ. I know what I know, many parts I witnessed myself, I remember them like it was yesterday. I tell you that the current books tell mixed up stories about real events, mixed up, changed, malformed, romantised, colored, some good to read, some ugly. Modern Example: look at the state tv of Libya, then CNN, and then Al-yazeera, three stories of the same events, but totally different. Which is the truth? For the believers only their version is the truth, the others are propaganda, lies. The winner will make his story the truth, and that is what will be in the history books of the future in that country. There is only one way to find out: go there and witness it yourself. Then you know, and can challenge the books later. Like I did. If you cannot do that, then listen to all with open mind and make your own choice. And I know that humans are always responsible for their own actions, and they will be held responsible as well, in the end. Even if they tell their Gods told them to do so, they have their own will, and can say 'no'.

"72 ravines and priests translated it in the command of Ptolemeus" That is exactly what I meant. I suppose he had to approve for the translation? So priests translated it, those in charge of a religion that worships and uses a god to suit their needs, translated a book that is the base of their religion. There is no original text, all the text is written after stories told from generation to generation. Nobody wrote down what Adam and Eve did, nobody could even write in those days. Still it is in the book. It is ok, believe what you want, so will I. I did not say your angel will try to convince you of anything. I just said 'What if' he would do that, do not deny a hypothesis. Just answer the question.

I know this story, terrible isn't it, what love cannot do to someone. But it reflects a strong love, you have to admit that I also know the story where her brother/husband was killed by their other brother, cut to pieces and divided over Egypt. She even went the underworld to get him back to life, died for him to go there and came back to make him live again. That were just two of the stories, it was never said she was sweet and innocent, like all ancient Gods were also not sweet and innocent. Name me one God who never killed or had anybody killed in his name. What I think speaks in favor of her is this: "But when she saw the catastrophe in the world, she regretted for what she voted, she tried with no result to convince the other gods to stop the catastrophe but it was already to late. After that she made a promise with the creation of an amulet made by a material called Lazouritis that his will never happen again in the world" I know she will keep that promise, that is why we are here, and did not leave with her. For me Kronos is Kronos, not Jupiter, that is what the Romans made of him. I have nothing against Zeus, I think you misunderstood something from my words. I said that those who call Zeus and Ares with Mythodea think they will get help from them in a fight to get power. Not sure if vangelis knows the plan in the background, he wrote a stunningly beautiful piece of music, if something can get Zeus here, it will be this. But they will be surprised, as they will not get what they expect, this will be good for the world, but bad for those who want to take over power. Vangelis will get what he expects, but those who asked him to make the music not. I respect Zeus and his pantheon above anything. They are my Lady's leaders. So how could I be against them? Something else: I have just been listening to Mythodea movement 1 to 11, Impressive and very interesting I must say. Unfortunately I could not find the English translation for movement 8 and 11.

I got the translation here: http://www.youtube.com/user/VangelisMythodea?blend=11&ob=5#p/a/A477760F2... I think it looks pretty official? I found the translation for movement 8 now, but 11 not yet.

This is Areo's channel: Even I can recognize the Greek words when I follow the subtitles, not sure why they deny there are no words. Somehow I feel movement 7, 8 and 9 are important. I think Areo 'smiled' when I played it, well it felt like it. I heard one sentence: 'She is already there'

I like this part on Youtube: Vangelis' Mythodea with Greek (and English) subtitles of the probable lyrics.

This is Areo's channel I can read and understand most of it, the problem is that a prayer on music is always difficult to read. And if the sense (the story/meaning) behind a movement is not clear it makes it even more complicated. A literal translation like on Youtube and yours is incomplete, it skips the meaning of the text. And if the writer tells that there are no words, he will also not explain what they mean. :-/ It is interesting, I will try to find a text explanation.